Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Tues, WH will announce if ALLOW Miers, Rove others to testify:

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:56 PM
Original message
Tues, WH will announce if ALLOW Miers, Rove others to testify:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070318/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/fired_prosecutors;_ylt=AnoE9bDXbb_fNus8mDW2Zfus0NUE

.............The week ahead poses several more risks for Gonzales.

On Monday, the Justice Department plans to turn over to Congress more documents that could provide more details of the role agency officials — including Gonzales — and top White House officials played in planning the prosecutors' dismissals.

On Tuesday, the White House is expected to announce whether it will let former White House counsel Harriet Miers, political strategist Karl Rove and other presidential advisers testify before Congress — and whether it will release more documents to lawmakers, including additional e-mails and other items. That decision was to be made on Friday, but the White House asked for more time.

On Thursday, lawmakers are scheduled to quiz Gonzales about his agency's budget request, but likely will ask questions about the scandal, too.

Also on Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled a vote on whether to authorize subpoenas for Miers; her deputy, William K. Kelley; and Rove, who said the controversy is being fueled by "superheated political rhetoric."

The panel already has approved using subpoenas, if necessary, for Justice Department officials and J. Scott Jennings, deputy to White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:59 PM
Response to Original message
1. When they prevent them from testifying....this is going to get
real interesting folks...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Love them "executive privilege" battles. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:03 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. I think they'll get away with it.
They always do.

They'll play the "National Security" card.

:popcorn:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. I wouldn't be surprised, but it will be hard to justify.
I wonder if this will be what finally, truly brings things to a head.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #3
12. I have a gut feeling they will also (get away with it)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #3
14. That may be hard to do since the attorneys they fired weren't
working on terrorism prosecutions...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:04 AM
Response to Original message
4. What is this "Will let" crap? As I understand it,several unelected, and un-
confirmed WH officials in the Clinton Wh testified before Congress. IMO, that set the precident. Why does Shrub have the authority to say NO????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. Goes back to Eisenhower; typically, non-cabinet level advisors of the president are excluded from
Edited on Sun Mar-18-07 12:08 AM by Ninja Jordan
Congressional subpoena because of a 'separation of powers' argument.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:11 AM
Original message
That generally fails against the oversight power when push comes to shove
because good government is the business of the people, expressed through its congressional representatives...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:13 AM
Response to Original message
8. Does it? It seems Clinton sucessfully exercised executive privilege quite often
I'm not saying it's constitutionally correct, but presidents have argued in favor of it for decades.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:29 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. Uh, no. He exercised it often until the Supremes slapped him down.
It took a while but by and large, Congress got the testimony that it could demonstrate a need for. It's just that their preferred weapon became the Starr investigation with the independent counsel powers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. I know that, but I believe that exemption was broken when Clinton's advisors
testified before Congress. The majority of our system is based upon precident, and I think the argument is now mute because the Pubs demanded Clinton's advisors to testify, therby setting a new precident. I guess we'll see how good I am atbeing a judge, huh?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. Now, now. You know that only applies to Democrats.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:11 AM
Response to Original message
7. And of course, the MSM will ignore the fact that, if the WH does not
"allow" them to testify, it obviously HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE...

When will it be ENOUGH?

It's been scandal after lie after corruption after scandal, one after the other, continuously, since this little imbecile stole the office.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:22 AM
Response to Original message
10. ALLOW my ass.
The DEMS must NOT negotiate with them on this.
A subpoena is "a command to appear at a certain time and place to give testimony upon a certain matter." The term is from the Middle English suppena and the Latin phrase sub poena meaning "under penalty."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 01:01 AM
Response to Original message
15. They need to subpoena Susan Ralston.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 07:45 AM
Response to Original message
16. They will stonewall
forever. They have a history of it from deadeye's energy meeting papers to the Abu Ghraib photos. Hopefully the Congress can force this admin into accountability somehow. It is time to play hardball with these felons.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:01 AM
Response to Original message
17. It's real simple, if WH refuses to allow them to testify,
that's the day the Democrats in Congress begin drafting articles of impeachment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:41 AM
Response to Original message
18. Why do they need so much time?
I'll tell you why. They are busy coming up with their story, and getting it all coordinated (IMHO). If they are going to go in front of the congress and lie, and there is no way they can tell the truth here, then they have to be sure they have dotted every I and crossed every T.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 03:16 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC