Is there a new right wing talking point about global warming??

[BOSSHOG]

Some jerkoff wrote a LTTE in Sunday's paper equating Al Gore with the Catholic Church of the 17th Century which forced Galileo to recant his research that the earth revolves around the sun. The letter writer said that Gore and other pseudoscientists were trying to "force" global warming "nonsense" beliefs on the populace just like the church forced their beliefs on Galileo. Totally fucking bizarre. And of course "real" scientists aren't being listened to. I've heard the "real" scientist crap before.

[hobbit709]

1. "Real" scientists

Like the people that spout this drivel would have any kind of clue as to what science is and how science works.

[endarkenment]

2. It is a marvel how they get it precisely backwards. nt

[Maddy McCall]

3. Seems that his logic is fucked.

The scientists who are warning about global warming are more like Galileo, and the establishments that resist global warming theories are more akin to the Church.

Really fucked up logic on the part of the letter writer.

[BOSSHOG]

5. Yes Ma'm indeed

He's a regular in the Sun Herald. Almost hilarious. I thought if I turned the paper upside his letter would make success but it didn't work. Imagine a known conservative yahoo complaining about someone forcing "beliefs" on others. I thought maybe the lunatics were instructed to test this line out to see how it would be received.

[Maddy McCall]

8. I'll have to go read that. I bet I've read his letters before.

:hi:

Conservatives always see themselves as persecuted. Yes, even in Mississippi. :rofl:

[BOSSHOG]

15. You are so right

Every Sunday Morning I see the good christians in the county sneaking into the thousands and thousands and thousands of baptist churchs that dot the countryside. The persecution is just incredible. As you well know Pearl River County is the San Francisco of Mississippi.

[Warpy]

7. They always reverse things

so they can keep living with themselves.

[sutz12]

4. This isn't new.....

They've been using this "Evolution is a Religion" and "Science is a Religion" argument for a while now. It really is the basis for Coulter's latest "book." Their only defense now seems to be that "Science is a religion." My religion is the only "true" religion, therefore science is evil and good Christians shouldn't study it. It just infuriates me. It's right up there with the "Can't argue with Stupid" thread. They frame the debate in their terms, therefore there are no logical, sane, rational, and especially no scientific arguments in opposition to their beliefs.

It's the ultimate stick their fingers in their ears and go "Na, Na, Na, Na," defense.

[BOSSHOG]

10. I find conservatives take the path of least resistance

on issues. They are lazy, yet incredibly high maintenance. Its so much easier to just sit in a pew and be told what to "believe" instead of actually researching stuff. God, they have cost this country so much as they enjoy their constitutional liberties.

[louis-t]

6. My question has always been: what is the motivation?

Why would someone 'make up' global warming? What purpose would that serve? Who benefits from a phony global warming story? I assume the 'real scientists' are the ones with neo-con 'minders' attached to their genitalia.

[BOSSHOG]

14. I seriously believe its based in racism

Perfect white men would in no way harm the environment. Oh yes, only "real" scientists tow the conservative line.

[pepperbear]

9. one of the new talking points I have seen is that GW is a good thing.

http://weekendpundit.blogmosis.com/lastweekend/027489.html

[TomClash]

11. New rightist talking point about global warming

"Baby, it's cold outside"

[Double T]

12. Always remember rethug logic........

up is down and down is up.

[ananda]

13. more than one

alarmist - scares children

wacko conspiracy theory

liberal

green


All of which are both wrong and crazy.

It's the typical corporate attack spiel... and it works here in the USA
because the media is bought and whorish.

[karynnj]

16. This was in last week's Tuesday Science Times section

A story claiming Gore hypes global warming beyound the science. The thing is if you read the whole article - the negative comments tend to be up front and in the title - but as you read further, scientists in the field praise Gore for doing a great job explaiing it as a non-scientist.


"But part of his scientific audience is uneasy. In talks, articles and blog entries that have appeared since his film and accompanying book came out last year, these scientists argue that some of Mr. Gore’s central points are exaggerated and erroneous. They are alarmed, some say, at what they call his alarmism.

“I don’t want to pick on Al Gore,” Don J. Easterbrook, an emeritus professor of geology at Western Washington University, told hundreds of experts at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America. “But there are a lot of inaccuracies in the statements we are seeing, and we have to temper that with real data.”

<snip>
"Kevin Vranes, a climatologist at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado, said he sensed a growing backlash against exaggeration. While praising Mr. Gore for “getting the message out,” Dr. Vranes questioned whether his presentations were “overselling our certainty about knowing the future.”

Further down in the story, it gets clearer to the truth - that scientists feel he does a great job explaining it as a non scientist and -

"“He has credibility in this community,” said Tim Killeen, the group’s president and director of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, a top group studying climate change. “There’s no question he’s read a lot and is able to respond in a very effective way.”







http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/13/science/13gore.html?ref=science

[BoneDaddy]

17. Wow what the opposite

Al Gore is more LIKE the condemned scientists who were trying to make the Catholic Church see the light.

What the republicans do is turn everything around and use it for themselves. Unimaginative fucks