Lieberman refused to rule out a switch to Republican party, and may support the Republican in '08!

[flpoljunkie]

Lieberman just interviewed on MSNBC by Norah O'Donnell who said he had just made news with the above statements.

[williesgirl]

1. fuck him and the horse he rode in on (sorry to the horse)

[williesgirl]

2. delete - dupe

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[fooj]

4. Harry...kick him the f*ck out! Now.

[saltpoint]

5. Joe's feelings aren't surprising. He is still pouting over losing the

2004 Democratic nomination. He thought for certain all those appearances on FOX News would translate to getting the nomination, that party people would naturally turn to him.

They didn't.

[JerseygirlCT]

23. Hi OC! Pouting over that, and over the primary here this past

summer. He cannot believe the effrontery of CT Dem voters! How DARE they?

[saltpoint]

37. Hey there, JerseygirlCT. Nice to see ya on DU. Yep. Those damn

Connecticut Democrats -- voting their conscience like that. What nerve! How rude!

[fasttense]

6. Like we are surprised?

He is a republic by any other name. If he ever goes on a republic ticket, he will never win an election again.

[brentspeak]

7. I would like an exact quote. Can you provide one for us?

Otherwise, this is just rumor-mongering.

[flpoljunkie]

11. Heard it myself, but will post transcript, if available, for exact words and Norah's recapping.

[IndianaGreen]

15. Norah's show runs until 4 PM EDT

It will be sometime after that you will get a transcript.

[IndianaGreen]

13. Norah had Holy Joe on her TV special on 4th anniversary of Iraq war on MSNBC

When Norah pointed out that none of the Democratic candidates shared Joe's views on the war, Joe got very adamant that the Democrats were wrong, that the war in Iraq was part of the larger GWOT, and he said he could not support those that disagreed with him.

The OP accurately described the exchange between Norah and Joe.

[flpoljunkie]

25. Thanks for your post, IndianaGreen.

[flpoljunkie]

35. How about the video? See post #34.

[Blue_In_AK]

8. Good riddance. n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

9. Oh please.

He just says this to get attention.

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[Deep13]

29. Plus CT would not have elected him but for his promise...

...to caucus with the Ds. He's to the right of neighboring RI's Chafee and he got kicked out.

[Ethelk2044]

43. No he does not

He needs the get the hell out of dodge.

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[Old and In the Way]

14. Leave now and avoid the rush.

Won't change the Senate rules on Democratic control. He can leave anytime....a shame he didn't have the guts to run as a Republican in 2006.

[karynnj]

16. Yes it will - just as when Jeffords changed the other way

If Leiberman changes it will be 50/50. Because Cheney casts the deciding vote that will cahnege the leadership.

[jaysunb]

21. Please stop saying that !

It's simply not the case. The rules for this session of Congress have been set and they won't be changed.
http://www2.boomantribune.com/story/2007/2/23/103929/414

[karynnj]

27. Sorry, I didn't know this

and assumed that the 2001 change was normal. I have seen many articles in many places that speak of how Leiberman is essentially capable of swifting the Senate. Glad to hear it is not so.

[Greyhound]

40. Just when I thought I had a handle on Senate rules...

Thank you for the good news!

[maxrandb]

17. All I can say is

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out you neo-con prick.

Just go Joe! Don't waste our fucking time. We're trying to accomplish something for the good of this country and our Democracy and you're gunking up the works.

- Take a look at the number of Republican Senators up for reelection in 2008 compared to the Democrats.

- Take a look at the sentiment of this country.

- Take a look at the energy that candidates like O'Bama, Clinton, Richardson, and Edwards are pumping into the Democratic Party.

- Take a look at the approval ratings of your good friend Dubya.

- Take a look at the "over the hill, lilly-white, I was for abortion-before I was against it, let's put our woman in Burka's, old farts" running for the Republic presidential nomination.

Take a look at all that Joe and tell me if you really want to throw away any seniority, chairmanships, or perks so that you can perform less than two-years worth of fellatio on a lame-ass duck pretzledent with approval ratings lower than Nixon.

Fuck you Joe. There's a good scene in Lethal Weapon where Murtoch tells Riggs "Don't just nibble on the barrel, pull the fucking trigger".

I'd rather you switch to the dark side now, than have you holding it over our heads, at the mercy of which way the fucking wind is blowing up your shorts that day.

soooooooo

PULL THE FUCKING TRIGGER JOE!

(this is a repost of my response to an earlier thread about Joe, but my sentiments still remain the same)

[INdemo]

18. He's said this before but

he knows that as long as Democrats think there is a chance he will switch he has the upper hand.Yep he's in control and what Liebermann wants he gets. He wont switch, he just wants to play this out for all its worth and its working.

[beth9999]

19. Well, what do you expect...

...from a guy who gets support from the Repugs, money from the Repugs, and whom the Repugs helped to steal the election away from the rightful winner, Ned Lamont.

[OnyxCollie]

20. From his comments, I believe we will be at war with Iran in September.

"You don't introduce new products in the summer." Isn't that what KKKarl said about the Iraq war?

Chimpy and his minions like to reveal bits of their evil plots to stroke their egos. From viewing their actions and reading their words, I'm guessing (If you happen to be reading, Agent Mike, I have no knowledge of this actually happening.) we'll have a terrorist attack in July that will be blamed on Iran. This way Bushco can use its new powers to control the National Guard and round up people without having to bother with that pesky habeas corpus. If you've got the authority, better use it before you lose it right? Didn't Kyle Sampson say just as much regarding the provision in the Patriot Act?

The war will start in the fall. We already have ships in the area, a Navy admiral as CENTCOM commander, and a rewrite of the policy of engagement allowing attacks on Iranians. What else would one expect?

[onenote]

33. I thought it was supposed to start last fall

as part of an pre-election October surprise. And then there was the DUer that was convinced it would start March 15.

Sooner or later someone may be right about this but, then again, maybe not.

[OnyxCollie]

39. I would be extremely happy to be proven wrong.

But I believe all has been planned far in advance. Bushco made such a stink about WMD in Iraq because they planned on putting them there. Textbook interventionist liberalism: Accuse Iraq, plant WMD, invade, overthrow, and it's all gravy after that. Saddam's gone, W's a hero, and the oil will flow like wine. Too bad for them that something went wrong, somebody found out, and it all went to hell. Unfortunately, the story's already been written, the framework's been laid, and Bushco has since been ignoring reality to support their fabricated fantasy. This administration takes no chance on an action without knowing the benefit. And IMO, the attacks on habeas corpus and posse comitatus were not without an expected benefit. I only hope the Dems can throw a wrench in the works to prevent this from happening.

And if I had to guess (BASED ON NOTHING BUT PURE SPECULATION), I would say July 11. If nothing happens, I owe you a beer.

[JerseygirlCT]

22. He'll keep threatening so long as we need him. It's a simple attention-getting

device.

But he won't actually hop -- if he did, he'd cease to be important. The GOP would give him one week of pats on the head, then he'd become a nobody again.

As for voting for the GOP in '08? I'd be very surprised if he didn't.

He'll continue to sulk about the primary this year forever, maybe.

[Labors of Hercules]

24. Can the Dem majority force him to follow through on his threats?

I wish they would... just push the sonofabitch over so they can move on without him.

[flaminbats]

26. didn't Lieberman support Bush over Kerry in 2004?

I know he ran as an independent in Connecticut because he lost the nomination and Republicans had their own nominee in 2006. There are only two things that might cause Lieberman to become a Republican...if Republicans win back the Senate in 2008 or if Lieberman decides to run for the Republican nomination in 2008.

I doubt either of these will happen.

[karynnj]

28. He technically supported Kerry and even campaigned for him in FL

However while doing that he always sided with Bush on Iraq - so he had to be pretty useless. (On domestic issues he was closer to Kerry - especially on the environment, civil rights and ethics and corruption.

[wisteria]

30. IMO- Lieberman is going nowhere.

The Repubs don't want him outright, he is a moderate and he serves their purposes just exactly where he is. As for his threats, well, he has some cushy assignments with clout on the Dem side and I doubt the Repubs would be willing to duplicate these if he were to switch, so he isn't going anywhere. He is using the suggestion to switch as leverage.
Lieberman is a sham. He is self-serving and has taken this position on the war because it serves him to do so.
Lieberman is the one major disappointment I have with VP Gore. How could he have chosen this jerk as his running mate? He had many better men to chose from, such as Senator Kerry.

[bamacrat]

31. I hate Lieberman, can someone not kick him out, i know we would loose contol but damn

[rateyes]

32. He's a damned Republican already....

switching, my ass.

[flpoljunkie]

34. MSNBC has now posted the video of Norah O'Donnell's interview with Lieberman

Liebermann won't rule out switch to GOP

March 19: Sen. Joe Liebermann (D-Conn.) tells MSNBC TV's Norah O'Donnell he will not rule out switching to the Republican Party and may support a Republican candidate for president.

http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/msnbc/fv.htm??f=00&g=0d450f2d-ae34-4842-835e-70481d8cb461&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/&fg=

[TwilightGardener]

36. I predict that Joe will come out with some such bullshit like this

about once every six weeks or so, like a four year old who picks up his teddy bear and a juice box and says he's running away from home, so that mommy will pay him some attention.

[flpoljunkie]

38. Lieberman's full throated defense of Bush's War undermines the Dems' efforts to find way out of Iraq

--Democrats' bills are mostly based on the recommendations of the bipartisan Iraq Study Group. The Senate Democratic plan is supported by Senator Russ Feingold as a strong first step to get us out of Iraq.

[MasonJar]

41. If he switches after 08, he will get nothing. We will own Congress by then.

We will not need Joe.

[Ethelk2044]

42. let him Go!

I am tired of him playing the dems for fools. IT is time they say switch.

[AshevilleGuy]

44. As a CT Senator, he is an insult to the memory of the GREAT Senator Abraham Ribicoff!

At the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago, while antiwar protestors were being clubbed outside by Daley's thugs, and were chanting "The whole world is watching!!!", CT Sen. Ribicoff strode to the podium and thunderously denounced the "gestapo tactics". Daley was sitting in the front row screaming "Fuck you!" at him. Ribicoff calmly stood his ground and made history.

This was on all networks that night. At the age of 17 I was impressed beyond words. It's hard to describe now how emotional all that was.

And now we have this Lieberman person in the same position. Words fail me.

[question everything]

45. If the Democratic Pary is defining itself by the war in iraq

as the only topic, while ignoring the other issues that are important for most voters - access to health care, good education, jobs, retirement, safe infrastructure and adequate government programs - and if the Republicans present a wider platform, then why not?

[BenDavid]

46. Well Harry Reid are you happy?

Guess Obama is happy that old Joe is making threats he will jump over to the right, since he campaigned for old jomo. We only have about 19 months to go before the 08 elections and from the early look the democrats have a chance to pick up from 5 to 9 senate seats. So, if that happens then the senate dems should elect a new majority leader and the new leader strip joe of any chairmanship and every committee he sits on and tell him "now joe, you can go and vote with the losers".