Congratulations to all the Democrats who supported Lieberman over Lamont.

[madfloridian]

You may have given the Senate back to the Republicans. Was that your intention? All of you who were Dems for Joe or were too cowardly to buck the trend and go and campaign with Ned Lamont, the chosen Democrat in the primary...is that what you intended?

Was your loyalty to Joe, which showed when you gave him a standing ovation as a welcome back to the Senate,....was that loyalty so strong you forgot about consequences for supporting someone who was getting millions from Republicans?

He just announced with a smirk that he was not ruling out switching parties, that he might support a Republican for president. Hey, Bill Clinton, how does that make you feel since you campaigned for him in CT?

Norah O even seemed shocked. Happy, guys?

Dems for Joe, a large group of powerful Democrats
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/451

What Joe Lieberman is doing is hurting all of us.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/453

Lieberman lets his Republican side shine through, GOP Joe.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/517

[ronnykmarshall]

1. He just wants attention.

He's not going to switch parties.

[AndyA]

2. I've had a bad feeling about Lieberman for a long, long time.

I don't trust him as far as I could move the Statue of Liberty on my own.

He is a snake, lying in wait, ready to bite.

I just can't understand Democrats who voted for him. They're just like Log Cabin Republicans: it doesn't compute. :(

[Horse with no Name]

3. Actually we won't lose the Senate

the leadership has already been chosen and no matter what Joe does it won't change.

[wakeme2008]

4. While the Repugs in Conn did help him get re-elected,,, a lot of his

votes came from Dems. :shrug:

[madfloridian]

6. I think 75% of Republicans...35% of Democrats...over 50% of indys.

He said on MSNBC that he was elected to do what he thought was right.

He fooled a third of the Dem voters, but he had huge numbers of powerful Democrats and Republicans giving him money and support. He got good media coverage while Lamont had to struggle.

[gratuitous]

5. Lieberman is posturing

He knows, as well as the Republicans know, that the rules for this session of the Senate are already written, and per the standard the Republicans themselves enshrined when they were in the majority, the rules can't be re-written in the middle of the session without a super majority vote. That means the committee assignments, the Majority Leader, and all the other day-to-day workings of the Senate are set for the remainder of this Congress.

If Joe switches, he knows very well that he loses his committee preferences, loses his chairman's gavel, and joins the Republicans, whose prospects for 2008 are even dimmer than they are now. Lieberman is posturing to upset folks who don't know the facts, and to pander to the minority folks who hate being in the minority.

[madfloridian]

7. I posted about that, and I got told it was wrong.

The political insider had a post about it, I posted it and was told I did not know what I was talking about it had been debunked.

:shrug:

No, I never know what I am talking about.

Here's where I posted it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=271029&mesg_id=275876

"I was right, I thought I read this....chairs would not change right away.
Not until the next congress.

http://www2.boomantribune.com/story/2007/2/23/103929/41...

"If Lieberman were to caucus with the Republicans, they would still not take full control of the Senate, despite Vice President Dick Cheney's ability to break 50-50 ties. This is because of a little-known Senate organizing resolution, passed in January, which gives Democrats control of the Senate and committee chairmanships until the beginning of the 111th Congress.

What's the difference between now and 2001? A small but important distinction. When the 107th Congress was convened on January 3, 2001, Al Gore was still the Vice President and would be for another two-and-a-half weeks. Therefore, because of the Senate's 50-50 tie, Democrats had nominal control of the chamber when the organizing resolution came to a vote. With Dick Cheney soon to come in, however, Democrats allowed Republicans to control the Senate in return for a provision on the organizing resolution that allowed for a reorganization of the chamber if any member should switch parties, which Jeffords did five months later. There was no such clause in the current Senate's organizing resolution."

He goes into great detail there, that we would need a new chair for the Homeland Security department...and next in line is Levin."

[IndianaGreen]

8. AIPAC poured money and resources to help Holy Joe beat Lamont

Like Israel's Prime Minister Olmert said last week, the US must remain in Iraq to protect Israel. AIPAC takes their cues from Israel, and they openly said that Holy Joe was Israel's best friend in the Senate.

When it comes to AIPAC, America be damned, and American lives be damned!

[Freddie Stubbs]

12. How much money did AIPAC pour?

:shrug:

[monarch]

9. C'mon, be fair. Almost every CT DUer worked hard for Ned.

Just about every pro-Joe post on this board came from people in other states telling us in CT that we were wrong, wrong, wrong to challenge a "good liberal Democrat." I worked hard for Ned myself and even hosted a party for Ned. If Ned could have been able to connect with every CT resident the way he did with the guests at our party, he would have won in a walk.

Joe won by having terrific name recognition and by spending vast sums of Republican money to run a very expensive, completely dishonest campaign about "negative Ned" that played into the public's wish that their representatives should just get along. He also flat-out lied about absolutely everything!! It is ironic that his campaign about negativity was so successful when it was alignedng himself with the party that created the negativity by spending every minute pushing divisive, negative issues -- more evidence of the bizarro world that this adminstration is forcing us to live in. Joe also won by tapping into an enormous reservoir of good will earned during a long, very public, career particularly his years as a self-promoting crusading attorney general.

Look, CT is a small state and many many residents know him personally. I have known him myself for more than 40 years and the person that he used to be is very bright, warm, friendly and completely engaging. When Gore picked him as his running mate, I was thrilled. How many of you could have the vice president pick you out of a crowd and have a personal conversation with you?

[madfloridian]

11. I don't blame CT Dems, I blame CT Republicans and national Dems.

I knew how hard CT Dems were working for Lamont. I followed all the bloggers there.

It was the fault of the Democrats in high places and their former WH advisors who came out in support of Joe.

No, I never blamed the Dems of CT...

[monarch]

13. Sorry, I didn't really think that you were blaming us.

I just used your post as occasion to whine. There have been some posts on this and other boards that call all CT voters idiots and worse.

[madfloridian]

16. I have seen them also. It was major national Dems and Republicans.

And they should be ashamed of themselves. We donated to Ned through DFA, and will do so if he runs again.

[coalition_unwilling]

15. Schumer should have stripped Lieberbush of all committee assignments

immediately after he announced he would not respect the results of the Dem primary. Because there were no consequences for Lieberbush pulling a Nader, the Dems got exactly what they deserved, imho. BTW: My local U.S. rep is Jane Harman and one of my U.S. senators is Dianne Feinstein. I don't believe I will be voting Dem for a long time to come.

[HardWorkingDem]

10. Relax..........

Imagine how much fun it will be when the Dems take back more senate seats, rep seats and the white house in 2008. If Lieberman thinks he is in the doghouse now, what until then.

[monarch]

14. Thanks for the encouragement . I'm trying hard

to be positive but with every scandal and every time things seems to be going our way, the rats weasel out of it. As for Joe, I used to feel terrible about turning on a friend, but now I would be positively gleeful if he goes down in disgrace, Hadassah leaves him and his kids change their names to escape the shame.

[knight_of_the_star]

17. Just wait until '08

When we thrash the GOP and render that little whiner totally impotent. He can threaten to switch sides all he wants after that, once we take the GOP out in '08 we can tell him, "Go right ahead you traitor!"

[thekuch]

18. Dennis Kucinich: Is It Time For Impeachment? (video)

Dennis Kucinich: Is It Time For Impeachment? (video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ckfdlrja8



The Kuch