Ya know, Obama isn't where he's at today because his wife used to be President.

[Clarkie1]

Just sayin'

;-)

[mucifer]

1. You're forgetting many believe Hilary is more intelligent than her

husband. Like her or not she did a lot of work in the Clinton administration. She's not my choice. But, she is qualified and highly intelligent. That said, I hope Gore runs.

[aquart]

2. How snidely condescending. How viciously belittling.

Just saying.

Obama doesn't have to worry about his enemies, his friends will destroy him.

[Clarkie1]

4. Perhaps I'm in a snidely condescending mood this evening.

But ain't it the truth?

I thank you for your comment.

:beer:

[Bitwit1234]

3. No it is probably because of a speech he gave at the DNC Convention

[Clarkie1]

5. That was a great one. Historic. Absolutely historic. nt

[DRoseDARs]

6. That's a shitastic and wholly unfair comparison to make and I don't even particularly like Hillary.

She got where she is because, for better or worse, she's a damned good politician. Love her or hate her (or anything in between), she is her own person and not one to ride on her husband's coattails.

[Clarkie1]

7. I'm sorry, but...."not one to ride her husband's coattails?"

:rofl:

You can't be serious. She plans on riding them all the way back to the White House.

[IndianaGreen]

8. You are baaaaaaaaad, Clarkie1

and we love you for it!

:loveya:

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[Catherine Vincent]

10. Okay.

Sigh!

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[carpe diem]

11. oh no u didn't...incoming...

:hide:

[splat]

13. It's not how you get there, it's what you do that counts

Democrats who eat their own are despicable.

George W. won on coattails, and he wasn't even smart.

Why give the GOP arguments against any of us?

[ripple]

14. While there might be some truth in what you say,

I think it's more of a reflection of our society's views towards women in power, rather than on Hillary's ability to do the job. She can do the job, just not with the approach I'd like to see.

[journalist3072]

16. There is absolutely NO truth to that.

[ripple]

18. Did you read the rest of my response? n/t

[ripple]

26. Please allow me to clarify

I'm saying that without being married to a president, it probably would have been much more difficult for Hillary to be considered a serious contender for the presidency. And not just Hillary- any woman.

Again, that's no reflection on Hillary's qualifications or ability. Instead, it's a reflection about how reluctant our society is to elect women to positions of power. That's obviously been improving, but without her husband's name recognition and financial connections, I'm not sure Hillary would be in the position she's in today.

Again, that isn't Hillary's fault. Instead, it's a sad reflection of our society's reluctance to fully evolve when it comes to personal prejudices and equal consideration.

[Clarkie1]

30. You are so, so, so diplomatic.

cheers

:toast:

[Clarkie1]

25. Oh, there's some truth to it alright.

:-)

[journalist3072]

15. Who's the jerk who actually gave this thread a recommendation?

I tell you, sometimes I think that Democratic Underground and Free Republic are actually the same website. They are one in the same.

Only someone who is unenlightened of the facts, would have the audacity to suggest that Hillary is where she is because of her husband.

Obviously the facts just don't support that.

It's scary to these people like the originator of this thread, are the types of people who will be casting ballots next year. Just scary.

[SaveElmer]

17. How Republican of you...nt

[SlowDownFast]

19. Hillary reminds me of Meryl Streep's

character (the mother of Sgt Shaw) in the movie The Manchurian Candidate.

Just sayin'.

[Freddie Stubbs]

20. And Hillary isn't where she is at because she is black

Does anyone think that Obama would have the media fawning over him if he were a white guy with a similar resume?

[Clarkie1]

29. It's not the media, it's the people.

Obama is inspiring.

[saracat]

21. What a nasty comment. The world being what it was, Hillary put aside her own

career to help Bill. One wonders what would have happened if she didn't and just pursued her own ambition? I am not a fan of Hillary's by any means, but this is below the belt.Not only is this a slam against all women but it is antidemocratic as well. This certainly doesn't reflect well on Obama who own wife is a lawyer as well. If Michelle Obama runs for office will you attack her because of her husband's fame as well? Sheesh.

[JeffR]

22. IBTL

:spank:

and BTW:

:spray:

[AtomicKitten]

23. Misogynistic Dem-bashing tripe.

[SaveElmer]

24. And Clark can't win if he is too afraid to run...

Just sayin'

;-)

[Clarkie1]

27. Well, that's silly.

Perhaps he doesn't want to run. Has nothing to do with fear.

This isn't about Clark.

[SaveElmer]

28. Makes as much sense as your Republican talking point of the day...nt

[Clarkie1]

31. No, my point makes more sense because it's factual. Yours assumes a hypothetical. nt

[SaveElmer]

32. Really...

And how do you know Hillary wouldn't be President by now has she not set aside her career for Bill?

It's a ridiculous, woman bashing, Republican talking point...of the type I have come to expect from many here at DU...

[Clarkie1]

33. It's an awesome coincidence that they are married to each other, isn't it?

Out of all the hundreds of millions of people in America.

[SaveElmer]

34. Are you purposely trying to act stupid?

Doesn't even make sense...

And you know...

If you think about it Wesley Clark wouldn't be where he is without Bill Clinton either, by your logic ...

[Clarkie1]

35. You are actually comparing advancement by marriage to career advancement by ones own volition?

C'mon

[SaveElmer]

36. Wesley Clark would not have been in charge of the Kosovo operation...

Or Supreme commander of NATO if it weren't for Bill Clinton...

And Hillary has more than proven herself in the U.S. Senate...

[Clarkie1]

38. There's you go again, changing the subject.

Yeah, she's had a term in the senate. So what? She got there because of name recognition from her husband, at least partly.

Do you think it's possible for a woman in America to become President without her husband having been President? I do. Senator Clinton's candidacy sets a poor example for American schoolchildren. It's a terrible lesson in political elitism and monarchy which has no place in our great land.

[SaveElmer]

39. Ok I was wrong...

Now you are purposely acting stupid...

So I guess you would have been ashamed of FDR and RFK as well...I mean they got where they did based on name recognition right?

And it is apparent you do not even know the definition of the word monarchy...

[JeffR]

37. Aw, hell

I'm running out of butter
:popcorn:

[Moderator]

40. Locking

This is sexist flamebait.