HRC supporters - Microsoft really went in the tank after that Super Bowl ad...

[HRC_in_08]

And Apple just went through the roof.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

:scared:

[Erika]

1. The right is scared to death of Hillary

Good. She's a strong woman with strong beliefs. She won't play at war like W has done. She'll stand for true family values.

[BenDavid]

3. I agree with you that the right

is scared of HRC. Each time we hear a talk radio Nazi say "She can't win," it means they're afraid of her. Talk radio whores are saying great things about Obama, which should make you wonder. Why would a facsist bastard say nice things about Obama?

I have nothing bad to say about Obama. Whoever wins the Democratic nomination, I'm behind him/her all the way. (That's a sentence you won't hear from most lefty web sites.)

But seriously, between Obama with two years experience and the only team to win back-to-back presidential campaigns since FDR, (the team that beat war hero Bush and war hero Dole), ...

who do you think the super-racist GOP wants to run against?

[karynnj]

17. I've heard the RW say MANY bad things about Obama

I do not intend to list them -

I have heard atrocious things said about - Obama, Edwards, Gore, Kerry, Reid, Durbin, and of course, the Clintons. I don't even listen often - just on occasion car rides, to see what they are up to. The ONLY Democrat they don't attack is Leiberman.

By the way, "war hero Bush" was 33% approval rate Bush and Dole was a long term Republican hatchet man. War hero would have been more significance after 911, when being a war hero would have meant something, unless you were a Democrat, whose highest medal showed intelligence, analytical ability, the sense to get information from everyone, even if they weren't officers who had earlier experience, the ability to sell an innovative alternative plan and the skill and bravery to lead the attack -

[Ethelk2044]

18. I heard RW gave Donations to Clinton

Head of Faux supposedly gave her a campaign contribution.

[blm]

11. I hope she disagrees with her husband and WILL open the books on BushInc

and their crimes of office.

This country is well on its way to fascism, and SOME DEMOCRAT needs to step up and deliver the sunshine this nation needs to regain its democratic footing.

If another Coverup Dem administration gets in office, we will end up with another Bush administration soon after, even if it goes by another name.

[Clarkie1]

2. The analogy is definitely there.

Little guy vs. big guy (woman)

think different (than the media)

a better product (or candidate) vs. who has the most $$$ and widespread support

[IntravenousDemilo]

4. You speak in riddles. n/m

[Goat or Panic]

5. Human Rights Campaign?

:)

I was wondering when Microsoft had made an anti-gay commercial.
Didn't remember hearing about it.

I feel very silly.

:silly:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

6. so, when do we get to see the real Hill, sans, focus groups, polls, crap

and Rahm Immanuel?
Does she really exist?

[papau]

7. The "real" Hill is the 70's Hill and amazingly enough it is the same as the 2007 Hill

She has been a progressive for at least 35 years -

What position paper/issue paper on her web site in 2007 is a major contradiction of prior statements by Hill?

And over 35 years we have all had minor changes in opinion.

[HRC_in_08]

9. bingo. eom.

[churchofreality]

8. Hillary is in her own class.

None of the other dems have a chance and the GOP candidates are crap. She has the experience, the money, the savvy, etc. She will dominate in the debates and show her command of domestic and foreign issues. Its a fait accompli.

[Ethelk2044]

19. Right

:sarcasm:

[rinsd]

10. sigh - is it possible for an attck to fall more flatly.

Psssttt when you want to show off how smart you are it helps to get the facts right.

The original 1984 ad was targetted at IBM not Microsoft.

Apple actually got its ass kicked by Microsoft for years.

Apple still doesn't make much profit in their computer division(its Itunes and Ipods that make their dough).

Oh and isn't it funny that a political ad about the New type of Candidate not the same old same old Politician is a rip off of an ad that is nearly 25 years old?

[IntravenousDemilo]

12. I still don't know which Superbowl ad you're talking about.

We don't get the same commercials in Canada that you do in the US. When they simulcast the game on Canadian network TV, it's run with Canadian ads. And even though we also get the US network on cable, they play the Canadian simulcast on the US stations as well, because the Canuck advertisers won't advertise on the Canadian stations if the special Superbowl extravaganza commercials are playing on the US stations. Stupid, I know. A few years ago, I did a US national commercial for Milky Way chocolate bars that wasn't shown in Canada, but it was shown during "That '70s Show". Now, we get "That '70s show" in Canada as well, but since it's simulcast with the US airing, I've never actually seen the spot.

So, basically, what does your post mean?

[dsc]

13. The 1984 anti Hillary ad is a homage to an ad for Apple

that ran during the SuperBowl in 1984. That was the year the McIntosh was introduced.

[IntravenousDemilo]

14. I had no idea she was even a national public figure in 1984.

For all I knew, she was just the wife of the Governor of Arkansas at the time. They ran a "1984 anti-Hillary ad" (i.e., an anti-Hillary ad in 1984)? Or am I just not getting this? When did the anti-Hillary ad run? What year? Which Superbowl? :dunce:

[dsc]

15. No the original ad was for McIntosh computers

it was based on big brother. The current ad replaces big brother with Hillary on the screen which gets a hammer thrown through it. I don't know the number of the Super Bowl but it would have been Jan 84

[IntravenousDemilo]

16. OK... I think... the CURRENT Macintosh ad is from this year...?

So let me get this straight, then.

In 1984, Macintosh brought out an ad that was based on Orwell's "Big Brother"?

This year, there was another Macintosh ad, and this time they replaced Big Brother's face with Hillary's, and someone threw a hammer through the screen?

And this new, revised Macintosh ad ran during this year's Superbowl?

This thread the first I heard about it. As I said, in Canada, we don't get the US Superbowl ads, even those multimillion-dollar one-time-only commercials, because the ad slots are filled by spots from Canadian advertisers. What confuses me is, why is Macintosh anti-Hillary? I thought Apple (Steve Jobs) skewed more Democratic, while Microsoft (Bill Gates) was more Republican.


ON EDIT: Oh, I see now! I went to YouTube and plugged "Hillary Macintosh Superbowl 1984" into their search thingy, and saw the commercial. It's not a Macintosh commercial slamming Hillary Clinton, but a current spot for Barack Obama that happened to be based on the 1984 Mac ad. Nobody mentioned that; I wouldn't have been so confused if I'd known what the "product" was...

I can see why Apple Corp. would be outraged by such a violation of copyright -- unless they also had a hand in it or got paid for the use of it by the Obama campaign.

[Apollo11]

20. Obama's campaign did not produce the ad

Just to be clear - it was made by some over-enthusiastic supporters.

Barack Obama on CNN Larry King Live - March 19, 2007

KING: There's an anti-Clinton ad out which your campaign said it has nothing to do with causing a stir on YouTube Internet site. It reuses footage from the famous 1984 Super Bowl for Apple Computer to slam Clinton and support Obama.

Here's a look and we'll get your comments.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "1984," FROM YOUTUBE.COM)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: Are you disclaiming -- what are you -- what's your read on that?

OBAMA: Well, the -- we knew nothing about it. I just saw it for the first time. And, you know, one of the things about the Internet is that people generate all kinds of stuff. In some ways, it's -- it's the democratization of the campaign process.

But it's not something that we had anything to do with or were aware of and that frankly, given what it looks like, we don't have the technical capacity to create something like that. It's pretty extraordinary.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0703/19/lkl.01.html