The more fearsome political machine: Clinton 1992-2007 or Bush2 1999-2007?

[blm]

Poll question: The more fearsome political machine: Clinton 1992-2007 or Bush2 1999-2007?

As in most feared by opponents - like during their campaigns, while they governed, who most controlled the message and most shaped legislation.

[valerief]

1. What do you mean by fierce? nt

[napi21]

3. I was going to ask the same question, but decided it meant

most willing to do ANYTHING to win...no matter who it hurt or what was left in ruin.

Thus I voted SHRUBCO!

[blm]

8. Good call, but I really meant in terms of discipline and control and power.

Which would win when matched against each other. I think the best example of that would be the Clinton trashed the WH story. That was their only head to head confrontation.

[blm]

4. I altered it to make it easier - more fearsome - tougher - more effective

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[Radical Activist]

5. fearsome at winning, or fearsome to the country?

Still not making sense.

[blm]

7. Which one had the toughest political team to DOMINATE the message and govern?

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[Radical Activist]

9. Then Bush, clearly.

Clinton lost Congress after two years and never passed most of his boldest agenda items. He never got a majority of the popular vote, even against a weak opponent in Bob Dole.

[blm]

10. Hard not to notice that TeamClinton virtually disappeared for 6 years and avoided

any confrontation with TeamBush, even on his most egregious attacks on the Democratic party, especially throughout the first term.

[aquart]

2. Are you trying to be funny?

Or simply busy perpetuating the Republican meme: Clinton did it, too. So Bush=Clinton.

Not appreciated.

[blm]

6. No - which team is more dominant on messaging, campaigning, governing,

shaping legislation.

I don't see that question as a GOP talking point at all.

[paulk]

11. the most fearsome political machine is the MSM

which sides with Republicans most of the time.

ergo:

BushCo wins your poll.

[blm]

12. BushInc CONTROLS most Corpmedia and FORCES the outcome for themselves.

That is EXACTLY the way I see it. And that is exactly what they intended when they started buying control of most broadcast media in the 80s and 90s.

That is the battle that Democrats need to take on because it effects every other issue.

[blm]

13. Interesting - and likely the reason they would never take BushInc on head to head.

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