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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:31 PM
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The media ....... it becomes clearer and clearer. They are Public Enemy Number One
The Democrats have the subpoena power and they're starting to use it. And instead of reporting the facts of what's going on, the media totes Republican Water. Tom Delay gets air time when the hottest story ought to have been the outing of a CIA operative?

I contend the media is a bigger problem than even Bushco. The media does, in fact and in deed, set the national agenda. And so long as they are a wholly owned house organ of the RNC and worse, they are the biggest issue we face. Their actions enable everything else.

We can't end the RNC, but we CAN enact legislation to reign in the media.

The glamor is having Rove and Plame before Congress. And those are good things.

But in my view the media is even bigger.

I'm not saying I am up to date on this and I am not saying he is the *only*, but Dennis Kucinich is the only one I hear talking about the media.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:34 PM
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1. Complicit in the Crimes against the American People
and the US Constitution .

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:35 PM
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2. We need the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE back! NOW!
I agree 100% The MEDIA is killing us.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:38 PM
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3. what legislation would you propose to "reign in the media"
that would be consistent with the First Amendment?

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:41 PM
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4. Rerugulation of the media to bust the megacorps ownership. Laws to require the identification of ...
..... news vs opinion. The ability to sue for outright lies.

And that would be what's passed on Monday of my dream of a Kill the Media Week.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:45 PM
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5. ownership rules -- maybe
identifying news v. opinion? No way. You realize that would open the door for every statement on every show to be challenged before the FCC or a court which would then have to try to discern the fine line between "news" and "opinion" -- it wouldn't be just our side complaining... the result would be chaos and the antithesis of a free press.

And would you limit it to just the broadcast airwaves or would you require the same labelling of information spread on the Internet?

And who gets to sue for "outright lies"? anyone, everyone. Class action lawyer relief act of 2007?

Again, not realistic or even a good idea.

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 05:52 PM
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6. I'm not THAT old...
but I certainly remember a day when people DIDN'T LIE outright on TV. There were safeguards against DEFAMATION.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:04 PM
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8. and there still are
but I understood the proposal to be aimed not at lies that defamed (i.e. injured the reputation of the subject of the lie), but simply at untruths in general.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:01 PM
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7. use bush's laws, call them enemy combatants
shoot 25 or 30 thousand of them. brite hum, coulter, the golbdbergs, melon scaife, woof blitzer, orelliy, limbah humbug and ...it easy to list 30k mediawhores. what else do you suggest is done with them? they aided/abetted the most anti-social gang of thieves and killers in US history; indeed bush etc can say they never get near the white house if pigmedia just do its job! and they be right. the mass media has been actively working to overthrow legal government in usa since nixon era. one example of them destroying someone running for office was the jimmy carter final budget, a 'debacle' according to the newsmedia.. carter ran a $58 billion deficit his last budget, and the media went literally insane, accusing carter of 'tax and spend', which is fair, until you look at regans's budget deficits which ran $200 billion routinely during his 8 years. at end of carter, the usa national debt was $1 trillion, at end of reagan it was 2.6 trillion (mostly military build up) in otrher word, regan more then doubled national debt in 8 years...that one example says the newsmedia, acting in concert, wanted reagan to get in, and have lied endlessly about what reagan really did. Last but not least, they also created bush junyer...the gopigs trashed the US constitution; surely no one expects the mediawhores, who helped the bush gangsters, to be able to use it to avoid judicious executions...
hang the sukkers, let satan sort them out!
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:05 PM
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9. okay, will count that one as not consistent with the first amendment
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:14 PM
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12. that's for sure!
but more then a few of them are afraid something like this could happen
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:11 PM
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11. The media went through a transformation during the 1980's.
Reagan's first round of deregulation led to what we have now. Clinton's worse blunder will always be the 1996 Telecom Act. I supported the part that deregulated wireless communications (the REAL "Telecom") but strongly opposed the half that deregulated media ownership. Because of this, I would have voted against the bill (filibuster and poison pill it if needed) if I were in congress.

Much worse than NAFTA.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:08 PM
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10. While I still believe part of the problem.
... is the fact that Dems in general really suck at getting on TV, making a succinct and hard-hitting point, and handling the repubs the way they handle us - I have to admit that I'm coming around to the realization that it isn't just FOX that sucks Rep ass, it's most of them.

I'm not sure what we can do about it.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:19 PM
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13. Yes.
re-regulate the media. Break up the monopolies.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 06:24 PM
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14. All of the candidates must speak on this.......
all of them!


"I don't think it is in the American public interest to further consolidate the media." Answering this reporter's question, the candidate said media consolidation "is damaging to putting out diverse opinions and fostering public dialogue. ... We need to distribute the ownership in media. We need to have the fairness in broadcasting rules put back in place." --Wes Clark
http://www.rapidfire-silverbullets.com/2006/12/wes_clarks_feeling_on_media_co.html
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 07:50 PM
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15. Okay, that makes one candidate and one potential candidate who have spoken about this.
Thanks for the quote.
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