Isn't there already a law saying the people can't lie

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to Congress while Congress is doing its oversight duties? If not, it's an idea whose time has come. Any lies told to Congress are crimes whether or not the person makes the lies under oath.

Truth shouldn't require sworn testimony. Truth should be a requirement in all cases.

[jody]

1. 18 USC 1001

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4. thank you

glad thats on the books

[ewoden]

2. US code text here

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 > § 1001 Prev | Next

§ 1001. Statements or entries generally
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(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.
(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party’s counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.
(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.

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3. so even if there is no oath, Rove can be nailed?

so let him testify without an oath then. It would more likely empower him to lie.

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5. Um... with no transcript or record, how exactly can you prove he lied?

See, that's the problem.

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7. I didn't say no record, I said no oath

I could accept no oath on the record.

[jody]

6. Martha Stewart was convicted under 18 USC 1001 and served time for lying to Fed officials when not

under oath.

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8. thank you again

I think the arrogant Rove will lie through his teeth.