Why are the girly men (and women) of this White House so afraid of "under oath"

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

Is it the silver bullet? The mirror with no reflection? The necklace of garlic? A wooden stake? Why do they wince and run away anytime someone says "under oath" ?

"The Truth Will Set You Free"




hmmm. Or maybe not.

[C_U_L8R]

1. they can't handle the truth

[lyonn]

8. That's a good one!!

It could be they don't recognize it. One should not question The Great Leader or his loyal followers. Each day this bunch came up with a new version of the facts. Remember Katrina? Torture? Outing of a CIA agent, phony "proof" Saddam had WMDs and took part in the 9-ll attack? Oh such a list and all the many twisted versions we heard for all the reasons those things happened on their watch.

[texpatriot2004]

2. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? It is still an appropriate question. nt

[Elidor]

3. The truth has ever been their enemy

Whether they're recklessly disregarding it or trying to keep it from the rest of us, they shun it at all costs.

[Bluedogvoter]

4. Here is how my repug co-worker explained it.

He claimed the democrats were using a strategy of holding hearings under oath on things that didn't violate any laws and then convicting the people under obstruction charges.

He refrenced the Valarie Plame case as his example.

I can understand the logic behind this even if I don't agree with it.

[Orrex]

6. That's the Bob Novak explanation

He spelled it out pretty much that same way on Charlie Rose a couple of weeks ago.

Problem is, if you lie under oath, you're committing a crime whether or not the subject about which you're testifying is a crime or not. At the very least you're committing perjury, and if they're investigating a crime (or whether a crime occurred), then obstruction seems like an appropriate charge against someone who'd lie to impede the investigation.

[Duer 157099]

13. Ask your co-worker what Clinton's crime was

Although these cases are very clearly different, since actual crimes were most likely committed, but until it's investigated, how can we be sure? If I'm not mistaken, that's the whole point of the investigation.

[Orrex]

5. It disgusts me

No oath? No notes? No transcripts? No recordings? Why not just say "we promise to lie as much as we want to."

Who the fuck does this citizen think he is? President or not, he's not above the law, and Executive Privilege is hardly a get-out-of-accountability-free card.

[LiberalFighter]

12. As Jonathan Alter explained.. executive privilege is a recent phenom

During the New Deal under FDR the Congress subpoena member(s) of his administration and executive privilege was never brought up. And it was a Democratic Congress.

Apparently, Nixon was the first to bring up executive privilege.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

16. Doesn't work since they went after Clinton.

Executive privilege doesn't fly anymore. Karma's a beeyotch.

[chefgirl]

7. Well, we all know the answer, dont we?

"The Truth Will Set You Free"

Yeah, or send your happy ass to jail.

-chef-

[noamnety]

9. "girly men"

:(

Sick of this shit

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

10. I thought the ironic usage was implicit.

Truly. I guess some people really NEED smilies like this :sarcasm: to clue them in.

Okay,since you need a lot of explication . .. oh, never mind, just go ahead and be offended

[noamnety]

11. not implicit

not when you use it with exactly the same meaning as they do

just reinforcing the same crap, as far as I can tell.

[flying_monkeys]

15. Yes, that made me wince too.

Even knowing it was sarcastic, it was still wince-inducing.


I am glad I am not the only one who took pause with that usage...


(Even in play or sarcasm, it is still a no-no put down, IMO)

[gristy]

14. Lash out!

If it suits you, I guess. Sounded like a valid criticism to me, but you came out swinging.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

17. You are right and I am wrong. My apologies.

I was attempting irony, but it was misguided and dumb. I will retire that phrase permanently :blush:



edited for redundancy - another writing flaw I possess.

[annabanana]

18. You would think they'd be PROUD

to stand up and take the Oath. They could stand up there before God and Man and, by God, TELL THE TRUTH, LOUD AND PROUD

That would sure shut those pinko hippie weak wristed terrist loving democ-Rats up fast enough, yessiree!