The AG story is a bunch of smoke!

[Gotitdone]

The "outrage" expressed by the democrats is nothing
but a slab of red meat being thrown to the blogosphere as a distraction.
How many posts are on DU about this??
The AG story will not matter one bit 1 year from now, but what will matter is whether
are not our troops are still in Iraq. The DLC believes that cutting off
funding is not a smart political move, so they are twisting every arm and
bribing anyone with pork barrel attachments to the war funding bill in
order to pass it. Our own party leaders out forsaking the beliefs in fear
of the political fallout. We need to make them understand who put them in
office, who voted for them, who manned the phones and who donated the money.
To stab us in the back now, at this time when that is needed is the courage of their convictions.

It is an outrage.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3223.html

[Vickers]

1. Assphincter says what?

:shrug:

[Gotitdone]

2. Did you read the story?

[Vickers]

6. I read as far as this idiocy: "They also cited MoveOn.org's endorsement of the measure Monday as..."

"...a blow to their efforts."

[Gotitdone]

8. That made me stop and make me think too.

It doesn't make sense. Perhaps moveon share their political calculation.
It makes me wonder how the moveon poll was taken.
I have a hard time believing even a small minority of anti-war activists would
support more war spending.

[JeffR]

3. Wow. I'm a raging leftist with little faith in party politics of any kind

and even I find this post to be utterly off the wall. Best of luck to you. Seriously.

[Gotitdone]

5. I understand your point.

These are harsh words., but if you read the story my
opinion may make sense.

[JeffR]

9. I read it and your opinion does make sense to me, but

these crooks will be taken down incrementally or they will not be taken down at all. As to the USA scandal, it's much bigger than a petty break-in at the Watergate, which in itself was enough to drive Nixon from office. So I'm waiting and watching, and hoping, as I'm sure you are.

[Gotitdone]

13. I predict to you that Bush will be in office till the end of his term

That means the only way to end the war is by cutting off spending.
An impeachment and removal from office is a long shot to say the least.

[JeffR]

17. I expect the litle prick to finish his term, sadly,

but I don't believe cutting off war funding could end the war. I wish I did, but I don't.

[fuzzyball]

20. I second your opinion...War rages on until January 2009

Bush will still be in office, dumber than he is now.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

4. It's not smoke

it's another brick from the wall.


We will drag them down, piece by piece.

[Der Blaue Engel]

7. Riiiiiiiight. Nothing to see here.

Yeah, just the total unraveling of the Clown King's empire.

Must be scary to watch it from the wrong side.

[Gotitdone]

10. I am not saying there is nothing to see.

I am saying that in the grand scheme of things there is a
much larger fish to fry. This war spending bill is being debated NOW.
If it passes that virtually guarantees another full YEAR of war.

[Der Blaue Engel]

24. Which is it? Smoke? Or something to see?

Maybe you should rethink your metaphor.

[Gotitdone]

27. True, maybe not the best metaphor.

My overall point is that they are using the AG story to show
how tough they are on bush, while at the same time twisting arm
behind the scenes in order to get the war funding bill past.
To me that would seem the more important priority.

[Erika]

11. The Craig-Feinstein bill is tied into it for welfare to the rurals

for lack of timber revenue.

[Gotitdone]

12. Thats fine.

Let it stand on its own than.
To pass a chance to end this war for that?
Not worth it.
Again this bill,as I understand it, funds the war for a full year.
That means one year from now the war will still being going.

[Erika]

14. Craig is GOP

He's tying the war funding to rural U.S. funding. You have no problem with that?

[sandnsea]

25. Well we need the money now

Half our state is federal, that means no property tax on half our land. We don't have time to wait until a new budget and money next year. Some of this money does need to go in the emergency funding because it didn't get taken care of by Republicans. The money is primarily a distractionary issue drummed up by the right and far left to beat up Democrats. We'd be better off to stick to ending the war and not let these budget issues get dragged into it.

[smoogatz]

15. What makes you think it's either/or?

The US attorney issue goes directly to the constitutional power struggle currently underway between Bush and the Dems in Congress. It's not smoke--that should be obvious. It's about Bush overreaching his authority once again, and systematically shutting down investigations that he finds politically inconvenient, as in Dusty Foggo and the Marianas sweat-shops/sex-slavery deal. It's about obstruction of justice and subverting the legal authority and crdibility of the entire justice system for Bush's personal, political convenience. As a matter of principle, it's very important, IMO.

[JeffR]

19. Neatly said, smoogatz

:toast:

[fuzzyball]

21. Not correct...all US prosecutors are political appointees...

they serve at the pleasure of the president. They can
be fired LEGALLY any time.

What is going on now is exposing the firings as purely
political move. It is NOT ILLEGAL. Not subject to any
impeachable offense. But the senators can gain
political points and that's all they are after.

[smoogatz]

22. An impeachable offense is whatever the House says it is.

Removing a well-qualified US attorney in the midst of a major corruption investigation for partisan political purposes could potentially be added to the long and growing list of Bush's impeachable offenses. For Gonzales to lie under oath is criminal and impeachable.

[fuzzyball]

28. I am not counting on impeachment before November 2008

basing my opinion on what speaker Pelosi & ML Reed have said.

[K8-EEE]

16. Uh-huh....22 posts....

Yeah don't look at that AG story....I have to be suspicious of the "either/or" thing.

We can walk and chew gum here at DU at the same time, thank you very much.

The AG story is huge, IMO, and we are seeing the wheels fall off BushCo.

The Dems have to push on this and push hard. They are very very scared of this info coming out, and there's a reason.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

18. I might also add...

That "The Politico" is turning out to be another repuke-ass-sucking site, full of people with cocktail weenies on their breath at such an intensity, they could be cited for Driving under the influence of Cocktail Weenies.

Just more Inside-The-Beltway-Jerkoffs who think they have this blogging thing all figured out.

[wake.up.america]

23. Not to discount the AG story. Bush and Rove must be "kind" of glad....

As they hope the AG story will end in nothing really substantial, but will divert people's attention from Iraq.

Bush is hoping for sympathy as the public perceives the opposition to be ganging up on Bush. Having said that, I hope they nail Bush on ALL points.

[cali]

29. You're kidding right?

No, they're not kind of glad. The USA story just keeps getting worse for them, including this morning's WP story about the prosecutor who's spilling the beans about the gross corruption that went on when the admin was prosecuting big tobacco- and why she quit.

[sinkingfeeling]

26. Shouldn't 'politico' be a banned source on DU?

[radfringe]

30. are you channeling my partner?

she said almost the exact same thing last night when we were discussing the Attorney firings.

she went on to say that if the bushies decide to fight the subpoenas - between setting court dates, delays, appeals etc. it will take months before that part is settled.

her immediate concern is stopping the bushies from invading IraN, and getting the hell out of IraQ