Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Josh Marshall: Okay, enough

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:09 AM
Original message
Josh Marshall: Okay, enough
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013159.php

Okay, enough. The president fired US Attorneys to stymie investigations of Republicans and punish US Attorneys who didn't harass Democrats with bogus voter fraud prosecutions. In the former instance, the evidence remains circumstantial. But in the latter the evidence is clear, overwhelming and undeniable.

Indeed, it is so undeniable the president hismelf does not deny it.

The president himself says that in some cases US Attorneys were dismissed because they were too lax in prosecuting election fraud. What he does not say -- but what we know directly from the accounts of the players involved -- is that these were cases in which Republican operatives and activists complained to the White House and Republican members of Congress that certain US Attorneys weren't convening grand juries or issuing indictments against Democrats, even though these were cases where all the available evidence suggests there was no wrongdoing prosecuted. (It's all reminiscent of the bogus voter fraud allegations Republicans got caught peddling in the South Dakota senate race in 2002. Only in this case getting these charges into the press wasn't enough; they wanted to use US Attorneys to actual harrass people or put them in jail.)

We know that Republican members of Congress sought to pressure the prosecutors in question to push these indictments. And we know at least in the case of David Iglesias in New Mexico that Sen. Domenici's (R-NM) complaints after not being able to get Iglesias to knuckle under were directly tied to his dismissal.

Back up a bit from the sparks flying over executive privilege and congressional testimony and you realize that these are textbook cases of the party in power interfering or obstructing the administration of justice for narrowly partisan purposes. It's a direct attack on the rule of law.

This much is already clear in the record. And we're now having a big public debate about the politics for each side if the president tries to obstruct the investigation and keep the truth from coming out. The contours and scope of executive privilege is one issue, and certainly an important one. But in this case it is being used as no more than a shield to keep the full extent of the president's perversion of the rule of law from becoming known.

It's yet another example of how far this White House has gone in normalizing behavior that we've been raised to associate with third-world countries where democracy has never successfully taken root and the rule of law is unknown. At most points in our history the idea that an Attorney General could stay in office after having overseen such an effort would be unthinkable. The most telling part of this episode is that they're not even really denying the wrongdoing. They're ignoring the point or at least pleading 'no contest' and saying it's okay.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:18 AM
Response to Original message
1. Imagine an army of ten thousand Ken Starrs
That's what Bush had in mind--in Karl's mind I mean.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:22 AM
Response to Original message
2. "It's a direct attack on the rule of law."
Study that sentence. Rehearse it. Know the facts behind it. And use it. Use it whenever some empty-headed know-nothing tries to say "Clinton did it" or "It's the president's prerogative." Because the firings were a direct attack on the rule of law. The Gonzalez 8 were fired because they wouldn't put their office in the service of the Republican National Committee. Their firings were a direct attack on the rule of law.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:45 AM
Response to Original message
3. Josh speaks the truth.
Now we just need a nation of people like him. And us here on DU. Where's the skepticism? Where is the desire for justice? Where is the need for the TRUTH?

I think this simple piece needs a kick^^^
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:17 PM
Response to Original message
4. kick
Where are the Repugs who were screaming "rule of law! Rule of law!" back in 1998? Hmmmm????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:57 PM
Response to Original message
5. Yup. Just like Domenici's phone call to Iglesias demonstrated
Here's Iglesias' version of what happened when Pete Dominici called him about prosecuting a Dem politician:

''He said, 'Are these going to be filed before November?''' former federal prosecutor David Iglesias, one of eight U.S. attorneys summarily fired in recent months, told the panel. ''I said I didn't think so. And to which he replied, 'I'm very sorry to hear that.' And then the line went dead.''

Il Bacio della morte. I can almost hear the violins start to play the Godfather theme music.

http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2828&Itemid=31
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 12:22 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC