DAMN!! Fred Thompson is tied with Hillary, that a shock but he trails Obama

[bigdarryl]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Presidential%20Match-Ups/March%202007/Thompsonvs.ObamaClinton20070323.htm
Thompson vs. Obama & Clinton 20070323

[soothsayer]

1. it's pretty early.

[BootinUp]

2. Thompson could be dangerous

we need nominate someone who can appeal to a broad spectrum and is tough enough to go toe to toe with that blowhard actor. I have just the guy in mind. ;)

[Tellurian]

16. Obama still trails Clinton in the Demo Polls..

This poll was taken 3/19..theres been alot of water under the bridge since then..


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Democratic%20Primaries/DemocraticPresidentialPrimary.htm

[Skink]

3. Rack em Pack em and Stack em.

[KingFlorez]

4. I don't buy it

[Alamom]

5. 800

Survey of 800 Likely Voters
March 21-22, 2007




Most likely (alot) of Law & Order fans.

[Bucky]

8. There's an art form to deconstructing polling results you don't like.

You have not acquired that skill.

[Bucky]

6. I see rock paper scissor thing here.

Maybe, maybe, Thompson could beat Clinton. Maybe.

But Clinton can beat Giuliani and Giuliani would beat the snot out of that fake tough guy all across the midwest. You can see the Giuli ads already: "Fred Thompson pretends to prosecute criminals every week on TV. Rudy Giuliani put real criminals away in the real New York and still had time to screw around behind his wife's back. Vote for the real thing."

Okay, my script could use a little work. I still don't see a guy with one foot in Hollywood scoring with today's Bible Belters.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

20. ROFLMAO! I love your script - it's perfect

You should shop it out to the GOP consultants :evilgrin:

[fuzzyball]

23. You mean like that actor from "Bedtime for Gonzo" ?

aka Ronnie Reagan who cleaned our clocks twice?
Yeah he was also a 2nd rate actor. Looks like the
public likes actors more than "real" politicians!

[skipos]

30. WHat makes you thinkg Hillary can beat Giuliani?

He beats her in most national polls, and has beaten her in polls in PA and NJ.

[bullimiami]

7. impossible.

[Sammy Pepys]

9. I'll tell you why I like Thompson...

1) Non-bullshitter
2) Would not suffer fools the way GWB does
3) Watergate

Not saying I'd vote for him, but I admit I would think just a slight bit better of the Republicans for putting him up as the nominee*.


*I still think we could beat him.

[BootinUp]

12. If I was interested in wagering

just for the money (assuuming I had some to wager) then I would bet on Thompson over any of the announced Dems.

[Jacobin]

14. listen to his drivel

He's been hosting paul harvey's nazirama on the radio lately.

take a listen and get back to me

[Sammy Pepys]

15. My post was intended as "politics aside...." n/t

.....

[dbackjon]

18. So you like

Anti-environmentist
Anti-gay bigots
Pro-"flag burning ban amendment" nazis
Pro ANWR drillers
Pro Death Penalty
Pro limits on Liability

[Darkseid69]

10. Wasn't Howard Dean at the top of the polls

before actual voting started?

All these polls are meaningless now

[Bronyraurus]

17. Good call

[BootinUp]

19. Actually

This far out in the 2004 cycle it was Kerry leading for the Dems I believe.

[Bucky]

21. No, at this point four years ago, the contest was seen as Lieberman vs Gephardt

[BootinUp]

22. Seen by whom?

I just looked at some polling and while Lieberman and Gephardt were strong in some polls I saw I would attribute it to not narrowing the poll to people who were likely voters in a primary. Much of the talk in December 03 was what happened to Kerry who had done very well in early polls. He was in fact the first to announce his intention to run. Its ok for us to disagree of course.



NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Robert Teeter (R). Latest: Dec. 7-9, 2002. N=1,005 adults nationwide. These questions were asked of Democrats, as well as non-Democrats who said they would vote in a Democratic presidential primary.


"Let me mention some people who might seek the Democratic nomination for president in 2004. If the next Democratic primary for president were being held today, which one of the following candidates would you vote for . . . ?" If "Not sure," ask: "Well, which way do you lean?"
12/02 (RV)
10/02
% %
Al Gore 39 32
John Kerry 13 10
Joe Lieberman 9 13
Richard Gephardt 9 9
Tom Daschle 8 10
John Edwards 2 3
Al Sharpton 2 2
Howard Dean 1 -
None/Other (vol.) 5 8
Not sure 12 13

[skipos]

29. You are talking about primary polls. BIG DIFFERENCE

Primary polls are often inaccurate due to the low number of voters.

Take a look at Rasmussen's polls for 2006, they were EXTREMELY accurate.

[Catherine Vincent]

11. My (_|_)!

[Jacobin]

13. oh gawd. if that gasbag gets elected.....

Has anyone noticed he's been subbing for paul harvey on his noon radio crapfest?

oh man, this guy is a fucking loon

[fuzzyball]

24. And Freddie is not even officially running

he could be dangerous.

[TwilightGardener]

25. Read in Townhall.com (right-winger site) that Thompson

was not exactly known for being a "hard worker" in the Senate--a flaw that will have to be explained or excused somehow. Also, didn't John Glenn make him look like an ass during Clinton hearings in the Senate? He is all image right now--will have to prove he has any substance. I think this pre-campaign "New Reagan" magical aura will fade some once he actually enters the race and Rudy McRomney (and the media)start to pick him apart--these three guys aren't about to let their huge prez ambitions and hard-slogging campaign work get sidelined by a FORMER senator and actor who decided last week it might be fun to run for pres if enough people beg him to and if someone gives him a rationale for running. Rudy is still the man to beat--aside from his 9-11 antics, he has a success record in NYC and has some executive credentials from his mayorship, much as I hate that fact. And his more moderate social views combined with tough-guy image won't hurt in the general, though I hope his awful family life will.

[Clarkie1]

26. I know it's early but that's just damning to Senator Clinton, just damning.

Especially compared with Obama's strong lead. It's reflective of her high unfavorablity ratings, which is a fact advocates for Senator Clinton simply refuse to acknowledge.

[ripple]

27. Spot on. n/t

[skipos]

28. Hillary underperforms Obama and Edwards in many polls

especially considering how high her name recognition is. Dame Rudy's name recognition is equally as high, but his numbers are alomost always better than hers. More Ras polls, note the trend...

Brownback (41%) Clinton (46%) CLINTON WINS BY 5%
Brownback (34%) Obama (49%) OBAMA WINS BY 15%

Gingrich (43%) Clinton (50%) CLINTON WINS BY 7%
Gingrich (38%) Obama (48%) OBAMA WINS BY 10%

Giuliani (49%) Clinton (41%) GIULIANI WINS BY 8%
Giuliani (46%) Obama (40%) GIULIANI WINS BY 6%

McCain (48%) Clinton (41%) MCCAIN WINS BY 7%
McCain (44%) Edwards (45%) EDWARDS WINS BY 1%
McCain (44%) Obama (44%) TIED

Her fav/unfav is 50%/48% Not much room to improve with that.
Obama's is 54%/36%.

Polls have Giuliani thumping her in blue states like PA and NJ too.

[Learn2Swim]

31. .

Giuliani worries me