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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:15 PM
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1993 vs, 2007, weathervane McCain has flip-flopped!
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/27/mccain-date-certain/

McCain’s Straight Talk On Timelines

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) today on the Senate floor:

Supporters of this provision say they want a date certain for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. But what they have offered us is more accurately described as a date certain for surrender — a date certain for surrender — with grave consequences for the future of Iraq, the stability of the Middle East and the security of Americans at home and abroad.

Watch it at link:

In 1993, McCain’s straight talk sounded much different. Then, he argued that “the orderly way” to stop the U.S. campaign in Somalia was to set a timeline and cut off funds after March 31, 1994, unless the President secured authorization from Congress. From his floor speech:

MCCAIN: …this resolution establishes, in effect, a date certain for a vote on the commitment of United States forces to Somalia…I think we all realize that we have drifted from the use of force to secure humanitarian relief to an open-ended effort at peace enforcement and nation building. …the orderly way to stop it is for the President to present a plan for shaping U.S. withdrawal, set a date for that plan, and have the congress of the United States either endorse or reject such a proposal.

Several conservative senators still in office — including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Sens. Bennett, Bond, Cochran, Domenici, Hatch, Hutchison, Lugar, Specter, Stevens and Warner — joined McCain and voted in favor of cutting funds and setting a timetable.

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MCCAIN: These same provisions were rejected by the Senate two weeks ago by a 48-50 vote. Now here we are debating the same provisions that we have — that have the same serious problems. I hope they’ll be rejected again by the same, if not a larger margin. Supporters of this provision say they want a date certain for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. But what they have offered us is more accurately described as a date certain for surrender — a date certain for surrender — with grave consequences for the future of Iraq, the stability of the Middle East and the security of Americans at home and abroad. And they offer it just as the situation in Iraq, though fraught with difficult challenges, is beginning to improve.

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:18 PM
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1. Is there video of his old speech?
That'd make a great campaign ad :evilgrin:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:19 PM
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2. I'll just bet someone digs it up! nt
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 07:15 AM
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6. I looked but no sign of it yet
I'll keep looking though :evilgrin:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:22 PM
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3. Johnny Mac spins so much we should attach a generator to him
and at least get the electricity from it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:48 PM
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4. LOL! 'Generator McCain'? nt
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:10 PM
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5. This is a delicious catch ....
I now recall the phrase 'Date Certain' ... The repukes were enamoured with the term in those heady days ....

Fucking lying hypocrites .....
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:53 AM
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7. If Granpa Fred or Great-aunt Marian was exhibiting this kind of behavior...
...they'd be evaluated for Alzheimers' Disease or if their medications or something else might be causing mild dementia.
:crazy:

This guy ain't just spinnin', gang...he ain't hittin' on all cylinders anymore. :hide::yoiks:

JMHO...but I've worked with this particular group of people all my life.
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