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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:02 AM
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"This Isn't American Idol, We're Choosing the President of the United States" - Kucinich on Dem. Now
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/28/1335231

"This Isn't American Idol, We're Choosing the President of the United States" - Kucinich on Corporate Media Campaign Coverage

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D - OH) was one of eight Congressmembers to vote against the House war-spending bill last week that set a timetable for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. We go to Capitol Hill to speak with Kucinich about the bill, why he thinks impeachment "should be on the table," the corporate media's coverage of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination and more. On Capitol Hill the Democratic-led Senate has moved closer to passing a war-spending bill that will give President Bush $100 billion more for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and also require U.S. combat troops to begin withdrawing from Iraq.

On Tuesday Republican lawmakers attempted to pass an amendment removing the troop withdrawal plan from the bill. But the amendment was defeated by a 50 to 48 vote after Republican Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska voted with the Democrats on the measure.

President Bush has vowed to veto the legislation if it includes a timetable for withdrawal. Meanwhile, anti-war activists continue to pressure lawmakers to reject the bill as well because it allows for the war to continue for another year.

In Burlington Vermont, police arrested eight protesters yesterday after they refused to leave the offices of independent Sen. Bernie Sanders. Sanders has been a long-time opponent of the war but supports the spending bill.

Sanders said it would be counterproductive to vote against the spending bill. He said, "That would mean voting with the Bush Administration and congressional Republicans and handing a victory to those who want to continue and perhaps expand the war into neighboring countries."

Last week eight anti-war Democrats voted against the supplemental spending bill when it came before the House. One of those lawmakers, Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, joins us from Capitol Hill. Congressman Kucinich is also running for the Democratic presidential nomination.

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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:07 AM
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1. dunno---didn't 'votefortheworst.com' get shrubby elected?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:08 AM
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2. If Sanjaya gets the nod, he will not get my vote!!
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:31 AM
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9. Voting Pub then?
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:09 AM
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3. Kucinich really should be the next president
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:11 PM
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15. Actually no, he really shouldn't.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:37 PM
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17. He's the only one that can't be bought
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:14 AM
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4. He's right...which is why Kucinich is the last person that should be elected...
On the Democratic side...

There is nothing in his background that indicates he would even be a competent President, let alone a good one...

Poor mayor, little accomplished as a Congressman, throws out liberal proposals that have no chance of passing and on which he expends little effort, or more importantly political capital...and if he were any of the other candidates he would be excoriated here as a world class flip-flopper and panderer...

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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:16 AM
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5. Elmer Why do you repeatedly spew these myths over and over?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:18 AM
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6. Flabber, you should be asking that of the anti-Hillary brigade. nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:33 PM
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16. Does one justify the other?
:shrug:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:20 AM
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7. Not myths...nt
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 10:24 AM by SaveElmer
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:29 AM
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8. You have never provided any evidence. So I assume they are myths?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:36 AM
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10. Sure I have...on many occasions...nt
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:39 AM
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11. Not in the least, because its all false.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:41 AM
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12. Tell ya what...
Come back here later in the day and I will again post the evidence you need...
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 12:08 PM
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14. I'll be waiting
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 11:14 AM
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13. The only flip-flop I know of for Kucinich was on abortion.
A lifelong opponent of abortion, he had a 'revelation' just before the 2004 campaign that he supported choice.

Anyone who believes that this change in fundamental political beliefs was anything but political expediency has a steep mountain of skepticism to climb, IMO.




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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 02:09 PM
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18. But, millions do vote as if it were American Idol!
Issues?? They only become aware there is an election coming, after the World Series, and then they find out who is running. "Well, lessee, I like him; don't like his looks; he looks like an asshole; won't vote for him, don't know why, just won't, etc etc...".

Liberals make the error that all voters analyze the issues the way we do. Wrong. How else did GWB get close enough both times to steal the elections?
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