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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:48 AM
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Fred Thompson--(actor politician) Plutonic Warming
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March 22, 2007 9:30 AM

Plutonic Warming

By Fred Thompson

Editor’s note: Click here to listen to the original radio commentary this transcript is based on.


NASA says the Martian South Pole’s “ice cap” has been shrinking for three summers in a row. Maybe Mars got its fever from earth. If so, I guess Jupiter’s caught the same cold, because it’s warming up too, like Pluto.

This has led some people, not necessarily scientists, to wonder if Mars and Jupiter, non signatories to the Kyoto Treaty, are actually inhabited by alien SUV-driving industrialists who run their air-conditioning at 60 degrees and refuse to recycle.

Silly, I know, but I wonder what all those planets, dwarf planets and moons in our SOLAR system have in common. Hmmmm. SOLAR system. Hmmmm. Solar? I wonder. Nah, I guess we shouldn’t even be talking about this. The science is absolutely decided. There’s a consensus.

Ask Galileo.

— Fred Thompson is an actor and former United States senator from Tennessee.


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:50 AM
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1. Oh, he should suit them down to a T.
And there are no pending indictments.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:03 AM
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2. Sometines it is better to be thought a fool than to utter a single word
and remove all doubt. Thompson should follow this advice.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:06 AM
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3. What? the sainted Fred Thompson is a just another global warming denying wingnut?
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 08:07 AM by Heaven and Earth
I'm shocked!

This is a good catch. We need to be prepared in case he does jump into the race. Showing that he is a global warming denier is a good first step towards making the case that he is no different from loons we already have.

K&R to spread this around!
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:19 AM
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4. What an ass! n/t
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:21 AM
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5. i see! so 'confess, repent, obey' should add 'consume, pollute'
in order to satisfy thompson's version of the Gopig mantra? Now it's 'confess, repent, consume, pollute, Obey!?
kinda getting unwieldy there fred...
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:40 AM
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6. .
Umm well yeah, that's how I envision a President to sound like...they really only have pathetic candidates.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:11 AM
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7. Fred Thompson is an oil company whore - but this is good should he try to run
The latest 60 Minutes seems to indicate that any science that fails to pay political dividends is suppressed by the Bush administration - based on NASA's chief climatologist scientist saying that he is not allowed to report his findings without editing by Whitehouse lawyers. If we're going to make a mistake, wouldn't it be better to err on the side of self-restraint when it's possible that our greed could bring about catastrophe? And while water vapor is indeed 95% of the green house gases, water vapor is the result of warming - and is not an originator of the change.

Fred Thomson bases his report on Univ of Maine research - but it is 2004 research - and is not the 2007 position of the University of Maine.

FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MAINE IN 2007

http://www.climatechange.umaine.edu/

UMaine researchers welcome new report on climate change
Saturday, February 03, 2007 - Bangor Daily News

Maine climate researchers and environmental groups applauded an international report released Friday that pinpoints humans as the most likely cause of global warming and cited the report as proof for continued vigilance on reducing local greenhouse gas emissions.

For scientists at the University of Maine’s Climate Change Institute, the conclusions of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change were neither shocking nor surprising. After all, the report’s findings were based on research performed at UMaine and hundreds of other institutions around the globe.


FROM THE MOUTH OF THE GOP'S FRED THOMPSON IN 2007 AND FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MAINE IN 2004:Public release date: 22-Dec-2004 and from a Russian Scientist's "controversial" overstatement:

Paul Mayewski paul.mayewski@maine.edu
University of Maine - Evidence for sun-climate link reported by UMaine scientists

A team led by University of Maine scientists has reported finding a potential link between changes in solar activity and the Earth's climate. In a paper due to be published in an upcoming volume of the Annals of Glaciology, Paul Mayewski, director of UMaine's Climate Change Institute, and 11 colleagues from China, Australia and UMaine describe evidence from ice cores pointing to an association between the waxing and waning of zonal wind strength around Antarctica and a chemical signal of changes in the sun's output.

<snip>The researchers' goal is to understand what drives the Earth's climate system without taking increases in greenhouse gases into account, says Mayewski. "There are good reasons to be concerned about greenhouse gases, but we should be looking at the climate system with our eyes open," he adds. Understanding how the system operates in the absence of human impacts is important for responding to climate changes that might occur in the future.

<snip>Since at least the 1840s when sunspot cycles were discovered, scientists have proposed that solar variability could affect the climate, but direct evidence of that relationship and understanding of a mechanism have been lacking.

The ice core data show, the authors write, that when solar radiation increases, more calcium is deposited at Siple Dome and at one of the ITASE field sites. The additional calcium may reflect an increase in wind strength in mid-latitude regions around Antarctica, they add, especially over the Indian and Pacific Oceans. Calcium in West Antarctic ice cores is thought to derive mainly from dust in Australia, Africa and South America and from sea salt in the southern ocean.

That finding, they note, is consistent with other research suggesting that the sun may affect the strength of those mid-latitude winds through changes in stratospheric ozone over Antarctica.

THEN THE GOP'S FRED THOMPSON ALSO RELIES ON OUR RUSSIAN FRIEND WHO OVERSTATES THE SOLAR CONNECTION (POLITELY CALLED MAKING A "CONTROVERSIAL" CONCLUSIONS):

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says
Kate Ravilious for National Geographic News February 28, 2007

Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory.

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures. In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row. Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun. "The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said. Abdussamatov believes that changes in the sun's heat output can account for almost all the climate changes we see on both planets.

CAN WE UNDERLINE THE WORD "ALMOST" ABOVE - "ALMOST" ALL CLIMATE CHANGE BEING SOLAR BASED SEEMS A GIVEN.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:35 AM
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8. this is just sad
just pitiful
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TnDem Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:40 AM
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9. This won't matter an iota in the GE....
As a staunch Tennessee Democrat and someone who has seen Thompson in action, I can tell by reading some of these replies in these various threads that people have NO clue about Fred Thompson and his campaign style. If he decides to run, he will sweep the primaries and give us a tight run for our money. Obama and Hillary have no chance against this guy. I have always lived in fear of him deciding to give up the better money of Hollywood for higher office aspirations.

There is an aura about him that people just seem to love. Hell, many Democrats will vote for the guy because he seems very intelligent and genuine. Remember too, that as a US Senator, he was one of a VERY few pugs that voted to not impeach Clinton. This further tempers the rabidity that seems to infest so many pugs.

We should be VERY VERY concerned about him running. The word from a very good source in Tennessee during the last Gubernatorial election, was the our current very popular Democratic governor only feared ONE person running possibly running against him.....Fred Thompson. Everybody just loves the guy and highly respects his service on the Senate Foreign relations committee as well as being a US attorney and Watergate Counsel. He is not a lightweight like some of the clueless posters on here assume.

His questions about the validity of Global Warming can only be effectively answered and debated by one person...Al Gore.. We had better hope that he runs instead of the current pack of potential GE losers.

I am a regular lurker who has been on here for years. I rarely post anything, but I'm telling you, you heard it here first about Thompson.
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