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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:20 PM Original message |
Hillary vs. Gore 2000 |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Perhaps it's worth noting |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Bingo, and Gore's was from Texas. nt |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Staten Island is on the other side of the city |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. In 2006, Clinton |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Clinton's negatives are so high, she would never pull in the indies and swings. plus |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. She gets more votes than polling points. Ind./Suburban women will vote for her. |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. They sure didn't crossover in 2000. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. who gives a fuck about 2000? |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Because in 2000 she had a serious well funded opponent |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. and in 2000 |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Performing significantly weaker than Gore |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Weaker than Gore |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. There are other counties I mentioned |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Yep, and these maps are proof of the toxic effect she had on such voters |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. there is no toxic effect |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Races against sacrificial lambs are not worth analyzing |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Clinton kicked |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Yet she still did far weaker than Gore |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
44. LOL. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. We would win New York if we ran anyone. It's solidly in the Dem catagory |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Of course. That's why her numbers are so troubling |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. Wow. This is meaningless! I worked in polling for 8 yrs. Means nothing. nt |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. What the hell does it have to do with polling? |
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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. This proves Gore would be a better candidate. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
13. You also don't note |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. yeah, shit happens when you outspend a joke opponent 20:1 |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. nonsense |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Staten Island is not part of Long Island last time I checked |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. sorry |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Explain then her underperformance to Gore in those counties then |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. What don't you understand? She ran against someone from LONG ISLAND. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Republicans didn't put up a credible opponent to her in 2006. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. You think she should've gotten |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. John Cornyn would be a great GOP candidate |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Yes, I do. Considering the Democratic sweep and her outspending that guy 20:1. |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Also worth noting that |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I agree. Spitzer's and Clinton's 2006 campaigns are very good campaigns to compare. (nt) |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. btw, it's not an unreasonable expectation |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
34. Gore's popular vote win over Dubya was by the thinnest of margins. |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Want to compare two statewide elections? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. No. Those are both state-wide candidacies. Al Gore's 2000 race was |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. so what? |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. My point is she always underperforms similar candidates |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. and your point |
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