Subject: 10 myths about Dennis Kucinich

[Flabbergasted]

1.) Kucinich just like all the other candidates is anti-war.

The other candidates are not anti-war. America will always be at war in Iraq as long as we have troops in Iraq. This is a fact. Iraqis just like Saudis will never tolerate American military presence. Kucinch is the only major candidate advocating complete withdrawal.

2.) Kucinich doesn't get anything done; he just talks alot.

This is wrong on so many levels its pitiful. Kucinich has worked for such a vast array of legislation during his years that he puts to shame many congressman.

3.) Kucinich is supporting the war by proxy and making a profit in the process.

This is really laughable.

4.) Kucinich does not understand politics.

Kucinich is unwilling to play the little political games others play but he knows the game. There is only one way to get our troops out of Iraq. Doing it.

4.) Kucinich is lazy and irresponsible.

Kucinich is the guy that you can count on. Even during his strenuous campaign schedule he still finds time to work for Ohio.

5.) Kucinich is a whiner

Many people don't like the fact that he tells congress about all the crap they would rather ignore.

6.) Kucinich is a wacko

Kucinch is not your typical congressmen for sure. He is actually passionate about his work and life. He actually cares about the country.

7.) Kucinich doesn't have enough experience to be president.

Kucinich has a 35 year history in politics. He has worked with every layer of state and federal government and with foreign countries and the UN.

8.) Kucinich's platform is not practical

Every campaign position that Kucinich has taken has the support of a wide array of the American public even if they are unaware of his positions.

9.) Kucinich can not run a campaign.

How the hell did he get elected to multiple offices.

10.) Kucinich is a fake

An in depth study into Kucinich reveals his authenticity.

[Rusty MacHenry]

1. How the hell did he get elected to multiple offices.

I'll tell you why. He gets elected in a area that is overwhemly Democratic that's how.

No Kucinich for me.

[Flabbergasted]

2. Democrats don't typically vote for 21 years to their city council.

I don't expect you to vote for him. I will set the record straight.

[EST]

4. Prove it!

[Rusty MacHenry]

15. Prove it?

It's Cleveland. With the exception of George Voinovich they'll vote any Democrat in.

[AnOhioan]

52. The fact that his district tends Democratic is irrelevant...

He has faced Democratic primary opponents almost every election cycle. He defeats them and then goes on to defeat the pubbie challenger. If it was a case of folks voting for him only because he is a Democrat, he would have been defeated in the primaries.

[Rusty MacHenry]

56. Yeah but why would they want to vote him out?

It's obious DK does a decent job representing his Cleveland based district in Congress so since he does that why would the voters vote for the other Democrat challenging him in the primaries? ever heard the saying:"If it ain't broke, don't fix it?" so if DK isn't screwing his voters in Congress, why should they vote him out?

[AnOhioan]

69. My point exactly...but some folks here on DU

use the excuse of his being a bad congressman to justify their attacks on his Presidential campaign.

[rinsd]

98. Combination of name recognition & Democrat

Kucinich has been working in the area forever and never faces anything more than token opposition in the primary.

[AnOhioan]

104. Funny, I did not think California was in DK's district.

I find it interesting that you characterize his opposition as "token", given that you do not live in the area. It must be hard to determine the if a candidate is merely "token opposition" from across the country. Fact is Dennis gets relected because he does a good job for his constituents. I am not suprised at your assertion, full of error though it may be. It fits with your demonization of him. Try another tack, that one did not make the grade.

[rinsd]

113. Any candidate that only draws 15% or less is token opposition at best

When Kucinich feels free to skip a debate with his primary opponent, I can assume the opposition is token.

It is obvious that Dennis is popular in the area that is not in dispute.

But to pretend he has been slaying giants as challengers is a little silly.

[AnOhioan]

116. Never said he was slaying giants

Just saying that he has had more than "token" opposition.

[AtomicKitten]

3. Myth: Kucinich can be elected president.

and that's the bottom line

[Flabbergasted]

5. If I remember right anyone can be elected president.

[AtomicKitten]

7. a lofty ideal but unfortunately not realistic

Until campaign finance reform is effected across the board, grassroots candidates must be able to compete with the big money candidates on the national level. It is what it is.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

13. In other words,

go with the person who has the most backing of the moneyed fat cats and big business, and the people of the country be screwed once again.

[AtomicKitten]

19. in other words

reality reigns supreme in my world and bellyaching about it is pointless

you can qualify reality to mean whatever assuages your disappointment, but don't presume to frame my point of view because I have stated reality and you don't like it

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

24. And your point of view

appears to be "I'm right and you're wrong." Ok by me.

[AtomicKitten]

25. nevermind

I'm done discussing Dennis Kucinich.

[Th1onein]

72. Kucinich CAN be elected!

I'll give him my money any day. He's a wonderful representative of the people.

If GWB can be elected twice, Kucinich can be elected once.

[onenote]

73. actually, the fact that gwb can be elected is probably proof that DK can't

[BrokenBeyondRepair]

80. bingo

it's pathetic

[mmonk]

99. Yep, unfortunately.

And as long as people keep following the pattern it won't be broken. Count me as someone who has decided to not go with the pattern anymore.

[Ron Green]

6. I think you've got that one backward.

The myth has always been that Kucinich is "unelectable." In fact, he really does espouse positions that most Americans, indeed most humans, support. The corporate propaganda machine is scared to death of someone who would actually initiate peaceful and sustainable policies, and at this time in this country that's Kucinich. So the myth is that he CANNOT be elected President, but unfortunately many people think as you do, and buy into a sort of status quo argument.

[Flabbergasted]

8. Yep, you said that well thanks.

[AtomicKitten]

9. reality trumps idealism

in the real world and even here at DU -
you can argue the inequities and unfairness of it til the cows come home, but it is what it is

[Ron Green]

11. And it's all about trumping, is it?

Humans have been playing realpolitik for 5,000 years, and its time has just about run out. We can continue to put Kerry, Clinton, Obama up for election, and continue to participate in the world of Empire, as the physical and spiritual resources of the earth diminish - or we can make a shift toward a peaceful and sustainable world, by offering candidates who aren't bought and paid for by the ruling class.

I'll vote for the Democratic nominee in the General Election, but it's too bad all Democrats don't think like me instead of like you.

[AtomicKitten]

20. no, it's about electabilty

And, again, don't presume to frame my point of view because I have stated the reality of the situation and you don't like it -- all your dramatic assertions are beside the point and don't change the reality of the fact that Dennis Kucinich cannot be elected president because he doesn't have the support base to bring it to fruition. It's really as simple as that. And vote however the hell you want; that was hardly the point.

[LWolf]

21. I'm glad to see you address the biggest myth.

All the rest, all the other 10, are exactly because of the fear you've outlined. Any false argument against our own interest will do, rather than actually effect change that benefits tptb.

[sasha031]

36. I'm voting for him

He's doing a wonderful job getting his message out on the internet.

Who really watches Tvvveee anymore except the fat, old and informed.

The younger doesn't watch it with the exception of the Daily Show and I'm sure they are downloading it.

I loved when he said after all the contenders talked about their profit health care.

His words" Didn't we just do that with that horrible Medicare bill! Health Care should not be a commodity"

words like that resonate with the population, he said we have to start with a movement and he's right.

If someone wants to vote for who has the most cash, it's sick. Unfortunately we live in a world with sound bites and lies.

He has some very influential Friends, he would be wonderful.

Take all the fat cash out of the pentagon and put it in social programs.

Sad thing is if Dennis was ever elected he would need more secret service and protection than * has ever dreamed of. They would surely try to kill him.

There are many times I don't like this country....it's just so sad.

[Stevepol]

68. He's got no "strings attached" as well and this scares the corporates silly.

[rinsd]

101. Yeah his Pinnochio imitation had them cowering

:eyes:

[lumberjack_jeff]

61. WWHSD

Homer: America, take a good look at your beloved candidates. They're
nothing but hideous space reptiles.

Kodos: It's true, we are aliens. But what are you going to do about
it? It's a two-party system; you have to vote for one of us.

Man1: He's right, this is a two-party system.
Man2: Well, I believe I'll vote for a third-party candidate.
Kang: Go ahead, throw your vote away.


-- "Treehouse of Horror VII"

[elocs]

10. All of those 10 points may be myths,

but one thing that is not a myth is that Dennis Kucinich cannot be elected President. That is an academic point anyway because he will never get the nomination. He may be passionate and have good ideas, but that is just simple reality. The burden of proof is on anybody who really believes that Kucinich has a chance to win the nomnination to explain how that might happen, where the groundswell of popular support, votes, and money would come from. I have nothing against Kucinich and am not supporting any candidate at this time. The only negative I would have to say about Kucinich is that he has no chance of ever being elected President.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

12. If Kucinich is a whacko

we need more whackos like him. He truly cares about this country (and not big business) and has plans to make it a better place to live.

[zulchzulu]

14. Two things you need to know about Kucinich

1. He is not relevant as a viable presidential candidate. He proved it in 2004 and he is proving it again. He simply is unelectable in personality, looks, speaking style and I would wager large amounts of money that his campaign will be nothing but a failure with minimal delegates in 2008.

2. He offers no clear legislative solutions regarding the war, 9/11 investigations or healthcare that will ever pass. And by his stance on not seeing the larger picture on how to end the war legislatively (after all, this is a democracy, not some reality TV show like Survivor), he is indeed continuing the war by proxy. He is prone to political theater, not political reality.

All the best to those that don't see through his veneer. I promise that this is the last post I will ever post on Kucinich on DU. He is absolutely irrelevant to me...and coming from someone who was a fan in the past, that's where I stand.

You can flame me all you want...I'll simply ignore your comment. It's not worth it.

[Rusty MacHenry]

16. Quoted for truth

Thanks for stating the obious Zulchzulu.

[Flabbergasted]

18. "He simply is unelectable in personality, looks, speaking style" Americans are really shallow.

"He simply is unelectable in personality, looks, speaking style" Americans are really shallow.

H.R. 1234 is a clear concise and realistic bill. If it's not passing it's because the reps do not control congress, their corporate sponsors do.

[Freddie Stubbs]

26. That bill was introduced over a month ago and only has two cosponsors

How hard is Kucinich working to get other to support it? It would appear that he is more a show horse rather than a work horse.

[Flabbergasted]

27. Bush would throw a tissfit if we tried to actually remove the troops.

Congress doesn't have the courage to face the media assault.

[Freddie Stubbs]

31. Kucinich doesn't have the ability to convince his colleagues

Isn't persuasiveness an important component of leadership?

[Ron Green]

32. Most of his colleagues are beholden to big money.

How are they to be persuaded to give that up for democracy?

[pnwmom]

49. Kucinich accepts PAC money. Obama doesn't, but he also has opposed

the war from the beginning.

[AnOhioan]

71. Dennis does not accept corporate PAC money

Not all PAC money is from big industry, environmental groups, peace groups, civil rights groups, all have PAC's. I will wait until the FEC releases the 1st quarter numbers to see if Obama does the same.

[Freddie Stubbs]

86. He did accept corporate PAC money--here is the proof:

http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/fec/?commid=C00039016&page=campaigns&order=TOTAL&cycle=2005-2006

[Flabbergasted]

90. Good Lord he's tainted. $750.00. Throw the Bastard out.

sarcasm

[Freddie Stubbs]

97. So now that we have established that he does accept donations from corporate PACs

We can examine why the amount is so small. Is there any evidence of him rejecting a contribution from a corporate PAC? Perhaps the reason is that prospective donors have determined that he is not a very effective lawmaker.

[AnOhioan]

103. A donation here and there does not equal what is

commonplace in DC. Cleveland Cliffs? Please, it's not like we are discussing the huge conglomerates that own most Congresspeople. And your crack about effectiveness just proves you are grasping at straws. It is actually pretty sad.

[Freddie Stubbs]

107. So, you concede that you have no evidence of him rejecting any corporate PAC contributions?

Not even one instance?

[AnOhioan]

109. False argument

I incorrectly stated that he does not take corporate PAC donations. If you go through his FEC records over the past several years you will notice that the donations are few and far in-between.

Candidates are not required to keep records of the donations returned to the donor. The assumption can be made that since corporate PACS generally try to cover their bets by doanting to many candidates, they have tried to do so with Dennis. The lack of large numbers in the corporate PAC area is acceptable proof that Dennis will more than likely not accept these donations.

I do know that in the '04 Presidential race he did not accept any corporate PAC money, he may accept some limited amounts in his Congressional races.

[Freddie Stubbs]

112. Or it is proof that they know that Kucinich is not very influencial

You can't reject what is not offered to you.

[AnOhioan]

115. You go right ahead and believe what you will....

Our opinions of Dennis are not in agreement. So be it.

[Flabbergasted]

76. His bills over the last two years had an average of nearly 20 co-sponsors

That is nearly 40 bills.

[Freddie Stubbs]

111. And just like HR 1234 will, none of them passed the House

[pnwmom]

48. That's probably true. But we won't change that by nominating Kucinich.

We'll just watch all those shallow types vote for a Republican they can imagine having a beer with.

[femrap]

51. I've seen Kucinich on Democracy Now! giving

the repugnant a run for his money. And WHY is he the only male politician picked on for his 'looks?' He is called an elf because of his stature.

That is MSM....do you realize that cheney is only 5'8". Rummy 5'6". And Gates....he can't be over 5'5"...he can barely see over the dais.....but who is made fun of? Kucinich.

I like him...and will more than likely vote for him in the primary.

[PresidentObama]

105. Will this be Kucinich's solution to every bill of his that fails?

It failed because of those damn corporate sponsors.

Damn, no wonder his legislative accomplishment list is razor thin!!

[AtomicKitten]

22. I'm with you on that.

No point putting oneself in a position to be flamed for stating the obvious reality of a situation.

I'm done too. :)

[AnOhioan]

38. Go ahead, ignore comments....

Much as we ignore you.

[lumberjack_jeff]

62. Few argue that he is wrong. Many argue that being right is not a virtue.

This vexes me about americans. We won't vote for someone who will do what we want, because that's a radical concept, it's just crazy talk.

[Unvanguard]

17. He's great, but he's totally unelectable.

It's not going to happen.

Leftists should focus our efforts on non-electoral methods of political action, and accept that we may have to vote for a non-leftist candidate in '08. It's the nature of the game.

[unkachuck]

108. you've got to have more faith....

....from Miracle on 34th Street....

"Fred Gailey: Faith is believing when common sense tells you not to. Don't you see? It's not just 'Dennis' that's on trial, it's everything he stands for. It's kindness and joy and love and all the other intangibles."

[pnwmom]

23. On top of his general flakiness, he's a cradle robber,

a sixty year old marrying an English "hottie" still in her twenties. His third wife, too, by the way.

That won't go over with most women voters.

[Flabbergasted]

28. The shallowness never stops

:banghead:

[pnwmom]

33. Yeah, he's pretty shallow, marrying a trophy wife at his age.

I agree.

[Flabbergasted]

40. Have you read anything about them?

[pnwmom]

47. I think she might make a fine philosphy teacher, and an interesting friend,

even the first female Jesuit priest, but I can't see her as a 30 year old first lady. The average American voters are not going to "get" her, and they're not going to get past her age or appearance.

http://journal.manygrains.com/?p=40

Peace--Compassion--Mindfulness
by Elizabeth Kucinich

As experience and Buddha teaches, life is suffering. Instead of being pessimistic, suggesting that everything is likely to lead to a bad outcome, the Buddha taught that there is a way to end suffering. In the teachings of the four noble truths, the Buddha outlined that life is suffering; suffering is caused by craving and aversion; suffering can be overcome and happiness can be attained, and that the Noble eight-fold path will lead to an end to suffering.

The eight-fold path is a focusing of the mind on being fully aware of our thoughts and actions, developing wisdom by understanding the Four Noble Truths and by having compassion for others. It is this compassion, this mindfulness, being conscious of consciousness that we dearly need to channel into our lives and into our world.

SNIP

[onenote]

74. yes, and maybe the public reaction would be wrong, but it would still occur

Just look at the shots that have been taken at Fred Thompson's wife here on DU.

[rinsd]

102. That is unfortunately true. (nt)

[stuartrida]

29. Fact: Kucinich was pro-life before he ran for President

earning him 0% ratings from Naral.
Fact: Kucinich was an unpopular mayor of Cleveland who survived a recall by a couple hundred votes.
Fact: Kucinich performed horribly in the 2004 Democratic primary and will perform horribly in the 2008 primary.

[Flabbergasted]

30. Only your first point is true.

[Codeine]

39. How are the others untrue?

He did survive a recall election by only 236 votes.

He lost the mayoral re-election by over 20,000 votes.

He performed very poorly in 2004.

Looks like all of the poster's points were true, weren't they?

[Flabbergasted]

41. He was outspent for the recall by 250% sponsored by corporate interests.

He had alot of support at the time and still does.

Your last point is unprovable in its entirety.

[Codeine]

44. If he had "alot" of support

he'd have won by more than a few hundred votes, and would have been re-elected later.

As for my second point, anybody would have to agree that he did poorly. He got 1% of the delegates in Iowa, 1% of the vote in New Hampshire, and finished near or at the bottom in almost every other state.

[Flabbergasted]

45. If he didn't have alot of support he would have never been elected to the House.

He was certainly controversial at the time.

[pnwmom]

50. He was the Democrat, running in a strong Democratic area.

But the boy mayor hasn't made a big impression nationally. And he's not a little boy anymore.

[Flabbergasted]

57. After Cleveland his career was considered over. It was his strength and good judgment

that got him reelected. He was in a democratic district yes but the position could have went to another dem.

[Codeine]

58. Listen, I like the guy,

I really do. He's bright, thoughtful, principled, and a vegan -- those are all good things, and I'd be proud to have him as President.

But, and this is an unfortunate but very real "but", he's short, goofy-looking, and not a very strong speaker. As shallow as it may be, those things really do matter on the national stage. They shouldn't matter, but pretending they don't doesn't impact the reality of things.

[Straight Shooter]

34. The more I see of the current crop of candidates, the more I like Kucinich.

My impression of him may be wrong, but maybe it's like dating all the hotshots and finally you just decide you want to be with someone real, someone with more substance than style.

The only candidate I've ever been enthusiastic about was Howard Dean, and I still think he would be a great president. Other than that, Al Gore is my number 1 choice. I'd really like to see a Gore/Clark ticket. Probably won't happen, but then who ever thought that in America there would be two stolen elections in a row with an idiot squatter in the Oval Office.

Oops, I got sidetracked. I think Kucinich is unfairly maligned, but this is, after all, a nation of Survivor and American Idol. I don't expect much from politics anymore, because after 2000 and 2004, I like to keep my sense of disappointment at a manageable level.

[fed-up]

35. Myth-I'm a dumb blond & will do whatever MSM tells me to-NOT-I vote 4 Dennis nt

[Sherman A1]

37. I will support Kucinich in the primary

and whoever the Dem Nominee is in the general. I like Dennis's positions and believe he is the real deal. I am also realistic.

[The Count]

42. The first one is the most important

[MethuenProgressive]

43. 11.) Dennis thinks he'll get the nomination

He's a swell guy, but he's not stupid.

[eridani]

54. No, but he's terminally perky

--which actually happens to be a qualification for being a presidential candidate.

[Gman]

46. #11 Kucinich is short

That's just an optical illusion.

[mvd]

53. I don't always agree with his rhetoric, but..

someone has to keep people on their toes. And he's the closest to my views.

[eridani]

55. If you live in a caucus state, you don't have to pay attention to "electability"

Let the beauty and money contest states handle that aspect of it. Pay attention to where you want the Democratic Party to be going and where you want the country to be going. Kucinich is leading in a direction that I want to go, therefore I'll support him as long as he's hanging in there. Caucus attendees can afford to stand on principle.

[MaggieSwanson]

60. Exactly.

When you caucus, you vote for the candidate who most represents your ideals. You're not placing a bet on which horse you think will win the Kentucky Derby.

If we don't caucus for the candidates that espouse our own beliefs, how can we expect to have a General Election candidate that will?

Vote your conscience in the Caucus/Primary, no matter who your candidate is. If every American did so, it would make for a far more representative General Election - one where people might actually feel they have a vested interest.

[Name removed]

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[Stand and Fight]

63. That's against policy...

You'd do well to remove your asinine comment.

The poster simply feels very good about their candidate, and while DK is not my choice for the nomination, I'll be dammed if I stand by and watch you call them a troll.

Get a grip.

[Name removed]

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[Flabbergasted]

67. Can you find any other posts where I've criticized anyone except Hillary?

[Lord Helmet]

65. say it with me now

President
Dennis
Kucinich

That's just wrong.

[AnOhioan]

70. Actually that phrase has a nice ring to it...

And thank you for keeping the thread kicked.

[OneBlueSky]

66. he may be authentic (I believe he is), but the fact is that he can't win . . .

either the nomination or the election . . . still, I'm glad he's in the race, if only to bring up issues that none of the "leading" candidates are willing to touch (e.g. 9/11) . . .

[SaveElmer]

75. Number 4 is correct...and half of number 3...

However, the fact is he did make common cause with republicans in refusing to vote for a withdrawal date for the troops....I don't think he did it for profit however (monetarily speaking)...

As to the rest, most of them are not myths

[Flabbergasted]

77. The reasons for your vote dictate your intentions not who voted with you.

[SaveElmer]

79. I'm glad to hear you say that...so I shouldn't expect to hear...

Anymore whining from the left on Hillary's (and Edwards, and Kerry's, and Cleland's etc), IWR vote, as their intention was clearly to get inspectors into Iraq and not to initiate a war...

[Flabbergasted]

82. It was clearly their intention to start a war with Iraq and now Iran.

[mr715]

84. Uh huh

It is clearly Kucinich's intention to rob a women of her right to choose, outlaw protest in the United States (he voted for the Flag Burning Ammendment), and reduce political discourse to a masturbatory new age cult of demagoguery

[Flabbergasted]

89. No its not.

[SaveElmer]

87. That is simply false...

You are blatantly ignoring EVERY statement they made in the run up to that vote...

Not surprising however...the typical left wing double standard...

[Flabbergasted]

88. Share the statments with me.

Obama has something to go on, Edwards is better, but forget about Clinton.

[SaveElmer]

92. Brother...

You might want to study up on this...

Start here...

http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=233783

Not only did Edwards vote for the IWR...he co-sponsored it...

[Flabbergasted]

95. I know you've brought it up before..

She ended up being wrong about most of it. The part where she admits that Bill changed his policy toward Iraq in 98 is especially revealing.

I never said I trusted Edwardd.

[mtnsnake]

78. Myth: Dennis Kucinich is the tallest midget in the United States

Fact: He is NOT the tallest midget. He is the shortest giant.

Seriously, though, I think Dennis Kucinich represents the true ideals of our Party as well or better than anyone. It's a shame he isn't taken more seriously.

[PresidentObama]

106. I wish our candidates had his voice. Otherwise, no thank you.

His legislative accomplishments are as thin as the hair on top of Dick Cheney's head.

[Danger Mouse]

81. All that is well and good.

But he will never be elected president. Never. It's the sad truth.

[seasat]

83. Richardson also favors a complete and immediate withdrawal

(LINK)

Richardson said he would leave no American soldiers in Iraq, bringing most home and sending some to Afghanistan to quell unrest there. He said he expected President Bush and congressional Republicans to oppose a "de-authorization" of the war and assumed that the fight would end up in the Supreme Court.

Richardson's plan for Iraq withdrawal

[ISUGRADIA]

85. Fact- He's never won an election outside the Cleveland metro area

[Flabbergasted]

91. Has he ever tried?

[SaveElmer]

94. He ran for President in 2004...right?...nt

[Flabbergasted]

96. Got me there.

[PresidentObama]

93. Number eleven myth: Kucinich has a great list of accomplishments in Congress.

Oh wait....

Nevermind :evilgrin:

But yet some Dennis Kucinich supporters want to insist he's the best candidate out there based on his war position, and his grandstanding on funding. What about accomplishments? If you want to lead, you have to show leadership. Grandstanding isn't leadership. Accomplishing something is. What makes DK so deserving of being President?

And I agree with AtomicKitten above. I love Kucinich's strong voice, and would support him for President IF he gets the nomination. But out of ALL of the Democrats, he would be the toughest to elect.

[rinsd]

100. Number one is not true.

I believe Richardson & Gravel are advocating complete withdraw.

[cleveramerican]

110. The creepy factor

I've met him, enjoyed our conversation, but he does seem sorta creepy. One of those weird guys who lived with his parents too long.


Even if its totally unfair, thats the impression he leaves with voters.

[Flabbergasted]

114. Everyone I've talked to who have met him thought he was a great guy.

Are you dealing with your own prejudice?

[cleveramerican]

117. I am explaining why his candidacy hasn't caught on.

I am not alone in my impression.