Clinton, Thompson lead in Tennessee...with Gore in race, Clinton still leads...

[SaveElmer]

But well within MoE

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton was the top choice for Tennessee Democrats.

She was favored by 35 percent of those polled, followed by Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and former vice presidential candidate John Edwards, each at 20 percent.

When former vice president and Tennessean Al Gore is added to the list of declared and potential candidates, Clinton's lead slipped to 28 percent to Gore's 25 percent.

If Thompson is the nominee...no Democrat is winning Tennessee...

But now that Thomson has been exposed as pro-choice, not sure how far he would get...I'm betting he won't run...

[AX10]

1. We are most likely not going to win TN anyways.

Although, I expect the Democratic candidate to do much better in the red states than Kerry or Gore did. We could be looking at 45% in NC/SC. We could win VA/Ark.

[michreject]

11. I'm moving there to do my part

Hopefully by Christmas.

[rodeodance]

2. recall that Gore lost his home state in 2000

[fooj]

10. You know, rodeodance...

With all of this "Rovian" BS (he is obsessed with "fixing" elections)... one wonders if Gore, did indeed lose Tennessee. How do we really know? Remember they said Kerry lost Ohio, too. Just some food for thought...

[fooj]

3. If Thompson is the nominee...Edwards beats him. It's all here...

http://rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Favorables/Favorables.htm

Have you check out the favorability ratings? Looks like Edwards wins that one, too. Just keeping you honest, SaveElmer...:hi:

[SaveElmer]

6. Rasmussen..

Does seem to be the pollster of choice on DU now...

However, that is a nationwide poll...not Tennessee...

And Hillary was a single point behind...well within MoE...no reason not to support her simply on that basis

[draft_mario_cuomo]

7. She was 15 points worse than Edwards, 13 points worse than Obama vs. FT

That says something...

If we want to lose let's at least make a point and nominate someone who stands for something like Kucinich. He would flip as many Bush states as HRC would...

[SaveElmer]

8. Kucinich...

Would lose all but the District of Columbia...

Hillary has a very good chance to flip several red states...

And again...I find it astounding after being told time and time again how pointless polls are this far out...that all of a sudden because one pollster shows Hillary with numbers like this, that we are now being told by some of those same people that polls are the basis on which we should choose our candidates...

Fact is it is not even unusual for a candidate with relatively high negatives to win the Presidency, both Bill Clinton and Al Gore did. I have alot more faith in Hillary's ability to deal with the right wing noise machine than any other candidate...


As to Kucinich, were he not a left winger, he would be considered a world class panderer and flip flopper around here...

Name an issue of true importance that any one of the top candidates has flipped on like DK flipped on Abortion, Stem Cell and flag desecration...and all right before he was gonna run for President...

He panders, he just panders to the left...and in that area he is almost in a class by himself!

[draft_mario_cuomo]

9. Gary Hart vs. Mondale in 1984

If we followed the polls and nominated Hart we may have saved ourselves four more years of Raygun...

Kucinich articulates a vision for America and has an actual message. That cannot be said about some others, although I do agree that he has pandered on several issues.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

4. Thompson beats HRC nationally, gets killed by Obama and Edwards

Thompson 44%
Clinton II 43%

Edwards 50%
Thompson 36%

Obama 49%
Thompson 37%

http://rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Favorables/Favorables.htm

Democratic nominee Clinton II=President Thompson? :scared:

[Alamom]

12. *Rasmussen uses automated polling....

A recent development is the use of automated polls. With this technology, the company's computer dials telephone numbers at random and then plays a message recorded by a professional radio announcer. The message asks whoever answers the demographic and political questions, to which they respond by pressing buttons on the telephone. The percentage of people who hang up quickly when this technique is much higher than when a human being conducts the poll. Nevertheless, *SurveyUSA and *Rasmussen rely heavily on this technique because it is fast and cheap, allowing them to charge less than their competitors in the polling business.
Traditional polling companies criticize the methodology on the grounds that it does not adequately filter out teenagers too young to vote but definitely old enough to play games with the system.

Chuck Todd, editor of the Hotline, a daily political tipsheet was once called by SurveyUSA and was effortlessly able to pass himself off as a 19-year old Republican Latina, something he could never have done with a human pollster.


http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2007/Info/polling-faq.html

[catgirl]

5. If Gore announces, it will change

All of his numbers will come up.