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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:15 PM Original message |
How did the Imus thing turn into a story about policing BLACK language? |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. And that is the real question isn't it. The Necons are very good |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Because Sharpton and Jackson got involved |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Because the press is always waiting to hear what Jackson and Sharpton have to say |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 01:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Over 20 year old news |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:52 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I'll give you that that is fair as regards to Jackson |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:02 AM Response to Reply #23 |
37. In the case of Sharpton, its been a lot more than one |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. What is "black language"? |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. it's what my evening news is trying to police |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. You mean how they talk or the kind of vocabulary they use? |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
28. Did you watch the evening news last night? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. It could be about the lack of African Americans in the media; that was |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. Randi Rhodes covered that in detail all last week. It's the racism. It's always been the racism. |
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primative1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. These photos from ... |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. No shit. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. When will the VT shootings be blamed on rap? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. LOL! True- we will soon know every CD and video game the guy ever touched. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
11. Blame the victim |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. And out of the other side of their filthy, lying mouths... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. Someone earlier posted a list of the top 6 R&B/rap songs |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Policing of language can't be limited to Imus |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
55. Nobody policed his language but his sponsors |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. You know better than that |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. "Forced?" |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Not gov't, but just as bad |
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PsN2Wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. When the consensus here and other places |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Bingo |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-16-07 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. You nailed it |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
16. bait and switch |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
17. Because this Imus hysteria was plain stupid, that's why |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Whether the major sources of news in the US are racist/sexist or use racist/sexist language |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Wrong focus, friend |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:01 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I learned on Tavis Smiley last Friday that a few years ago |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:33 AM Response to Reply #36 |
53. That is 100% untrue |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. The few times I listened to Imus, he talked about news & politics the entire time. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Current events, including politics |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:18 AM Response to Reply #56 |
71. "I think the country wants a boss like that, you know? A little bit of fascism there." |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. One of the best posts of the month |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
20. Easy for them to do, considering he was imitating lyrics from rap songs. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
22. Gee, ya think?? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. It's amazing |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Reality sometimes bites back |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
58. About hate radio and the lying corporate media??? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. I agree with your view of the media |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
24. Obama: Rappers using same language as embattled radio host Imus |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
64. Two separate issues |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
25. It's called framing and dems better learn it and how to reframe. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
27. Don Imus is not only not off the hook, he lost his job. He lost two, in fact, |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I think the media is occluding why he lost his job and why this is an issue |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Honestly, I'm not getting that at all. CBS sacked Imus. That's |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I am reacting to a story on my local news last night. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. I can't speak for your local news station but feel that Bob Herbert |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:08 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I have a feeling that local news coverage is going to frame people's perception |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:10 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. The words are the same. It's not a black this or white that issue. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. ? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:20 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Possibly the point is not Imus but the words themselves. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:27 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I'm not sure that post responds to the points I'm trying to make. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Herbert's column ran in the paper of record yesterday; Angelou's |
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primative1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Rest Easy ... |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Imus is no more of a war crtic than any other journalist engaging in CYA |
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primative1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:17 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Either way ... |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:21 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. The Republican strategy for winning 2008 will be to crticize the war. |
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primative1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:22 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I wouldnt bet on that ... |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:28 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I would comfortably bet money on that. |
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primative1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:30 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Seems like there are numerous arguments .. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. Thank you for spotting that obvious point. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Hi to you, MH1, and a good afternoon also. I'm embarrassed to say |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
65. We aren't talking about Savage, Beck & Limbaugh though |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
59. because white men wear this reflective shield that sends criticism |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Double true. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
67. "I would definitely prefer hip hop to be more about politics" |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
70. Because after calling Rutgers "Nappy Headed Hoes" he said ... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
72. It's called "objectivity" - people noticed that they were applying a double standard to Imus. |
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