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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:49 PM Original message |
I think the Cheney Impeachment issue dimishes Democratic credibility. |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. and why pray tell... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. we don't have the votes.We need Republican votes as well as Dem and we don't have them! |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
68. Believe it or not there are still a few people in Washington that take |
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dave_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
166. "you never know if you don't try" |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 07:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
161. Where do you buy your crystal balls? Will you read the lumps on my head too? |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
164. Or worse, maybe we do.... |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. So you would be content to just leave Cheney in office? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. We do not have a choice! We don't have the VOTES. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Very few initiatives EVER "have the votes" on the day they're announced. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
116. Whenever I see that argument I wonder exactly how much... |
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Throwing Stones (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. The votes aren't the issue |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. The votes are the issue.We look weak and foolish when we fail. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Maybe the Republicans who defend them will be the ones who look foolish. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. No one will have to .This will probably not even come to a vote. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. Sounds right. I'm sure the timid, frightened "Dry Powder" DEMS will see to that. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
106. yeah, that John Conyers is such a coward |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:04 AM Response to Reply #106 |
138. He has proved time & time again otherwise-but then Conyers is not running the show. |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #138 |
154. Actually Conyers is running the show |
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Throwing Stones (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. that sounds vaguely like the "success in Iraq" I've been hearing lately |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
52. I disagree |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
140. No the bastards who don't vote to impeach |
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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
100. Then "We the People" |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
114. We MUST try. To ignore it is: |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #114 |
129. Some people care more about winning than the Constitution. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
128. Says you, the non-mind reader. |
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november3rd (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. does it matter |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. No.We still don't have the votes.We need the rublicans folks and we don't have them. |
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Throwing Stones (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. the votes are those of the electorate |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
130. It doesn't matter that he's a criminal? |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think you're nuts. There is a reason Cheney has an 18% approval rating. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I remember Nixon.I watched every day of the hearings. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I disagree. I think Cheney's mother would vote against him. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Many Republicans still support him.The real world is NOT DU. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. "Many" is not "all" or even "most." |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Look, I would like him to be gone but the GOP will not do this! |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. So let's do NOTHING. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. No lets do some "positive things" and get real results that we can run on! |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. "We let the criminals walk" is NOT a platform upon which we'll win. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
133. We've sunk so low that people are actually arguing against upholding the law. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. The people who defend Cheney are the ones who will look like the bad guys, not DEMS. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
132. You would? You already said it doesn't matter that he's a criminal. |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
141. Which Republicans |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #23 |
148. Can't answer my question, eh? |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
155. OK you can't answer my question |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
131. "They will not vote against Cheney." |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. You'd be wrong. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Impeachment is NOT removel from office.It is impeachment. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
134. "we need to care what they think as we need their votes in 2008" |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 02:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
112. Impeachment is like an indictment, it won't remove him from office. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. Oh jeeze, every one cries "do something, do something' and when |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. I think this impeachment is as likely to succeed as Kucinich is to be elected president. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. Well then, let's just not try. Hell, lets just give the damn House and |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. well them you should have elected a "super majority " instead of a slim majority. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Okey Dokey, you win. Everybody, on the count of three! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
136. I'm sure some of MLK's tepid supporters made similar analogies. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #136 |
146. make that a big "me too" |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
165. Whether or not impeachment succeeds, it is IMPERATIVE to at least TRY! |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
125. I agree with you. 100% |
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lazyriver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
13. Whether it can be successful or not, I think it's necessary |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
137. Gee, you get it. I get it. Why can't others? |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. If nothing is done, in spite of Bush/Cheney crimes |
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Buck Turgidson (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
16. My thoughts, since you asked so politely... |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. Curious - high crimes and misdemeanors aren't a "'real' issue, are a "distraction" |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. No .Succeeding at something is the thing. Priciples are a waste when they can't be used |
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PreacherCasey (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. Sad that you feel that way. Principles are what determine which goals to work toward. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Principles have never won an election yet. And winning is everything. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. So we will lose an election if we defy Cheney? Who loves him that much? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Many of the Republicans will.We also need their vote. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. You are telling me that people who are PRO CHENEY on 4/24/07 might vote DEM? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Yes.My husband was a Dem candidate AND a member of the NRA as well as is |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. So voters will come out in droves to avenge the popular Mr. Cheney- uh-huh. |
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PreacherCasey (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. I disagree. Winning is a by-product of having enough people on the side of your principles. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I agree that their actions "warrant it but it isn't feasible. BTW, |
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PreacherCasey (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. We are going in circles. I respect your opinion, but disagree. eom |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I respect yours as wel.I also disagree but thank you for the debate! |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #43 |
111. How utterly Rovian. |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #111 |
156. Jesus, thought I was the only one. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
126. Exposing what cheney did is a real goal. you bet it is. just the impeachment articles themselves |
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marylanddem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
19. Democratic Credibility is ENHANCED by being BOLD |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
20. holy crap, read the Constitution |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. yep, you said it |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. I predict that many DEMS will fight DK on this harder than they ever THOUGHT about fighting Bush |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
124. I'll be taking names too. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
31. I agree |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. umm ........... okay . |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
62. because someone asked for my opinion |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
80. thanks all the same for the kick to the thread |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Thank you.The voice of reason .At last. I hope you are correct. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
44. Somebody's gotta be the first in Congress to lead on this issue. |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-06-07 01:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
172. Because they are Hired Republican Plants, Subversives |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
46. Cheney needs to be Impeached and I want to see who votes |
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solara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
48. The Dick's list of crimes is well known to us here at DU and on other progressive sites |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. "Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing." |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Only those who win acheive anything. The votes to pass the amendment must be there to pass it! |
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solara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Amen! This aint football, that's for sure.. these criminals must be exposed.. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
55. I'll tell you what diminishes Dem cred: not going after these criminals! |
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ddbaj (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
63. Truth. |
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PreacherCasey (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Say that to the families of the soldiers who died for this lie. eom |
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ddbaj (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. This won't bring them back. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. But it would make another Prez. twice before doing to someone elses kids. |
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ddbaj (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. No. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. So under your excuse, no Republican EVER gets impeached, no matter what. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. NO republican will ever be impeached without Republican votes. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Let them defend Cheney & this war tooth & nail then. Their voters will disagree with them. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. No but they will vote to defend their party. You insult them and their VP they will fight back. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. I'm sure they will fight back if we insult them. You never want to be in a situation where we fight. |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. so you prefer to honor and obey? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #72 |
88. Clinton's popularity soared with impeachment.What do you think would happen with Bushco? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Cliton presided over 8 years of peace & prospertity. Cheney? Everyone hates his guts. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. No one was hated more by the GOP than Clinton. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Sure the GOP hated Clinton- but everyone else in the USA loved him & his record- not so w/ Cheney. |
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dave_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #88 |
167. Bushco have killed 850,000 for lies |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
144. No but it sure as hell made Ford, Bush 1, Reagan and Clinton |
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PreacherCasey (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. I say people need to wake up, and having an impeachment inquiry against Cheney will show them |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. That's the same excuse we were given for why DEMS couldnt oppose the war. |
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ddbaj (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Yes, really. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Sorry, but the IRAQ WAR is not "old news"- it's a CURRENT EVENT. |
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ddbaj (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Okay, maybe I should clarify. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. So our excuse isnt that Iraq is old news, but that Republicans can do what ever they want. |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-06-07 01:23 AM Response to Reply #81 |
171. Quite obviously the Republicans are hard at work |
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Heathen57 (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
109. Playing Lap Dog to Cheney and Co. |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-06-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #76 |
170. To hell with justice, eh? |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
143. Cheney's crimes haven't even been completely exposed yet. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
73. I've found that if doing the right thing makes me look silly |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
75. I think the Tillman hearings dimishes Democratic credibility |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Attacking the Swift-boat Vets would have diminished DEM credibility too. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. We didn't sit back on that but whatever. |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Anything that brings up the lie and subjugation of this administration to the public |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. No, I'm right- the same exact excuses are trotted out everytime we want to fight Bush. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
77. I'd rather be regarded as silly than as a coward & collaborator. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Besides, the only people who find it "silly" are Cheney, some media and the frightened DEMS. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
78. Not really. It will be ignored. See when McKinney introduced her articles |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Amen. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. That goes against the conspiracy theory that Impeachment makes DEMS look bad. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Mckinney made us look like idiots. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #90 |
99. How? The media didnt even cover it. No one even knows she did it. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #90 |
123. Not really |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. I don't see it as making Dems look bad. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Me either. But some here are saying that the GOP/media WANTS us to impeach... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
103. I resent members of congress not impeaching them for their actions |
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peacetheonlyway (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. you said it so perfectly "m" monk |
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peacetheonlyway (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
104. Worse than NOT Impeaching |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #104 |
115. Two of your sentences sum it up. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
107. You probably are right (although I don't think it'll amount to anything and won't be a distraction) |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
108. We have to talk about the crimes, not the impeachment |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-24-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
110. If the evidence is there, IMPEACH, I say. |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
113. Agree One Hundred Percent |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
117. I'm not sure I follow your logic since the articles of impeachment against... |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
118. this is not a partisan issue..alllow them to make it so and they win..just roll over |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
119. The only thing diminishing Democratic credibility is that all Dems aren't on board w/impeachment |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
120. I think letting them get away with war crimes diminishes their credibility more |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
121. Any time I see a "concern" post worried that some action "makes us look bad" |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 11:21 PM Response to Reply #121 |
147. No kidding...and it's not like the Dems are weighted down with credibility to start with anyways. |
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pberq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
122. Sorry, but the truth matters |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
127. Yeah, attempting to uphold the Constitution is silly. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-25-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
135. Don't be so Negative. Don't be so timid. Think BIG and Think Positive. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
139. Defending the Constitution and the republic trumps all partisan considerations |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
142. Any thoughts? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
145. I think not taking a stand against abuse of power dimishes Democratic credibility. |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
149. I have to wonder about some of you... |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #149 |
152. Bullshit, losing mentality |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #149 |
157. "How old are some of you?" asks the person obsessed with the children's cartoon "Sailor Moon" |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 08:00 AM Response to Reply #157 |
162. LMAO |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
150. I just want the bad people to go away. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-06-07 01:59 AM Response to Reply #150 |
173. Deleted message |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-06-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #173 |
176. we were discussing "how" not "if" |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
151. Thought: I Hear Another Impeachophobe Expounding the "Ziskey Doctrine" |
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enough already (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
153. Bullshit |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 03:09 AM Response to Original message |
158. I agree |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
159. Deleted message |
MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
160. Ah yes, pursuing justice does make one look so un-credible |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
163. To not impeach would be an unforgiveable crime worse than the criminals themselves |
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Oldenuff (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #163 |
168. It should be real simple. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-06-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #168 |
174. you tell em oldenuff |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
169. I think this argument removes yours completely... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-06-07 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
175. I don't want Cheney to live a life of luxury in Dubai... |
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