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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:34 PM Original message |
Hey, Obama, why do you think clergy have any authority to help women make decisions on abortion? |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. that shocked me too |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Some Women do talk to their Minister |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
78. Obama is pandering to the religious community |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #78 |
123. Pandering? That's ironic! |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I am not watching the debates yet but Obama is very into the religious types in this country. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. I haven't seen the debate, but that is a real turn-off for me. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Edwards said Jesus was his moral compass |
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fuzzyball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:55 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. YES...as a non-devout hindu, I dislike Christianity thrown around |
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rep the dems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
120. Exactly. So what's wrong with him saying that God/Jesus is what guides |
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fuzzyball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Exactly why I am not a republican....too much Jesus |
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rep the dems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. Not everyone who believes in God is a "Jesus freak." |
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fuzzyball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. When Edwards mentioned "lord" who do you think he was |
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rep the dems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #127 |
135. So you do think everyone who believes in God is a Jesus Freak. |
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fuzzyball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Huge difference between God & Jesus |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 02:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. No. He is talking for himself. He is not offering that to prove he is a good guy. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #41 |
58. it turns me off |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
125. Yes, he sponsored a bill (or amendment) to let bankruptcy filers |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. A woman, her doctor and her God |
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razzleberry (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 02:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
50. a doctor is just a auto mechanic, but for humans |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 04:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. A doctor performs the abortion |
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Kber (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 07:42 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Same reason you ask you automechanic when you need your brakes changed |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. Many women in this country |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
79. And many women don't |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. Some women go to their clergy to get advice on abortion. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Some people get panicky at the mere thought of being associated with atheism. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. You pretty much can't have a debate about it without religion coming up |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. There isn't a uniform clergyman's position on abortion. |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. Or a clergywoman, either. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Thank you! |
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cmkramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
64. The hearings during the Clinton Administration |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. I have been arguing for years that the decision to have an abortion... |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Of course the government doesn't have the authority. But why would clergy? |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I don't recall that the Senator came anywhere near |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. do people have a choice on whether or not to be religious too? |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. wrong |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. so why don't we ban clergy and remove a woman's choice to see one? |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. I talked to my family preist when deiciding on whether to abort for medical |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I glad you were helped in a tough spot. As you brought it up, might I ask what you were torn about? |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. I had to decide on aborting due to medical and consulted with my priest |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
14. I don't believe that Obama was making it be an authoritarian kind of statement..... |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Nobody's saying she can't. I'm questioning the basis of the authority of the clergy |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Then let me restate: Why is abortion a religious question? |
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grizmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:35 PM Original message |
Obama didn't cast it as a specifically religious issue |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Because it is a religious question for many, even if that doesn't include you..... |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Agreed, it is a moral question. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Ministers may be or may not be any more "moral" than anyone else.... |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. All those "ologies" you mentioned. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. A google will provide you with what you need to know.......as I have never been one to |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Where ya' been??? |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #26 |
59. I think it is less then 80% |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #59 |
74. It's 91%, actually |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. I'd like to know where they did the poling - how was it worded? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
103. What difference does it make? |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. Not a question of authority. Simply a person of counsel. |
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grizmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
19. the same reason family would have "authority" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
22. Now this is really reaching |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. That's why I said I was confused upthread...... |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. You roll your eyes, but whether anyone should believe in supernaturalism is a serious question. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Do you have something to say about Edwards' Moral leader being |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I'm an Edwards supporter, but his religion is not the reason. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I'll respectfully will agree to disagree with you, the tone of your headline, |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Good post. It is a double standard indeed. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
80. Agree...double standard. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #28 |
60. agree |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
32. As a woman who has been preggers & who's known preggers women.... |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Big difference between consulting or making joint decision |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:34 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. I'm sure he didn't mean "requirement" |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 04:43 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Support is the key word here, |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
65. I think the choice of "clergy" was a choice on his part. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #32 |
61. me - what kind of training do these ministers have in order to |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Good point--many have little training. nt |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. self-delete. posted twice for some reason |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Clergy have training in ethical theory |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
89. Wouldn't that be ethics based on what a supernatural creator entity wants? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. We are trained within out tradition. Are you suggesting we shouldn't |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Are you are more concerned with preserving your tradition than |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. I know you don't agree, but we see our tradition as helping people |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. I'm saying you can help people without buying into supernatural ideas |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. You can't be respectful of people's sincere belief in what you call |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Lack of respect for ideas that haven't earned it. Not lack of respect for people. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #104 |
128. Wow! What intolerance!!!! |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. It all comes down to evidence. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 07:18 AM Response to Reply #129 |
133. evidence not proof |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. I'm serious, if you know of some evidence for the existence of gods |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. the burden of persuasion is on the one criticising others |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
77. Those who hate religion would have a problem with that |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
37. One word - pandering. n/t |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-26-07 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
39. Oh come on... |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:18 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Thanks, SaveElmer |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #39 |
56. the reactionary bombs thrown at religious institutions around here is ponderous. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. religious institutions need ponderous reactionary bombs |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #56 |
68. And hurt us politically. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #68 |
87. Are you ashamed to have humanists, atheists, and other non-believers |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. I'm not hostile to non-believers. I'm hostile to hostility |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. No, because I know the difference between opposition to supernatural ideas |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Is it not an attack on those who look to clergy as authorities? |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. It's a challenge to unearned authority. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. You know full well what I'm saying |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Organized religion is not God, cannot speak for God, can only tell us what |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
81. 99% of clergy are men |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #81 |
108. In my faith tradition, it's 60/40%. That'll change with upcoming retirements. nt |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
44. He's saying whomever the woman feels comfortable with |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
71. But did he say that or are you saying what you believe he meant ? nt |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. It's obvious what he meant |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. Apparently not judging by the difference of opinion here. What was the exact quote? |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
101. I acknowledge that a majority identify with some form of organized religion but disagree that his |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
72. But did he say that or are you saying what you believe he meant ? nt |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
73. But did he say that or are you saying what you believe he meant ? nt |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
53. For some people it does, for some it does not. |
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katmondoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
54. My question too |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #54 |
70. Well, some do. Trust me, people have come to me for support at such moments. nt |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
57. I'm guessing he *meant* any counselors she'd want to involve |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
75. Maybe he's read some history |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Thank you for that reminder n/t |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
83. Women do not need men wearing white collars to help them w/THEIR choice |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. But if a woman CHOOSES to consult her clergy |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
85. I'm an athiest and |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Because you don't control how I feel and what I think about things? |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #88 |
113. Sorry, either you took |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
94. What is the exact quote and the question he was responding to. Lots of noise here, I can't make a |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
96. Yeah, I didn't like that answer AT ALL |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
97. Remember...ALL Democrats are not religious or spiritual... thanks for playing... |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Heh, judging by the reaction here, |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #97 |
110. Exactly. nt |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
102. I have an uncle who is a Catholic priest who is pro-choice |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. He'd be all those great things without supernatural ideas. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #107 |
122. He has seen enough hell on Earth to know how to detect the demons |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #122 |
130. Doesn't matter if they were the teachings of Jesus or the teachings of Fred |
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Dervill Crow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
112. Why shouldn't they? |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. That isn't the controversial part, as you can see from this thread. |
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Dervill Crow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. It surprises me no one will defend that. |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
115. 114 replies, much spitting and snarking, and no one knows the original quote? |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. It's here |
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CRH (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Thank You for the link ... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #117 |
139. "I trust women to make these decisions with their doctor, their family, and their clergy. |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
116. I've been outspoken about Obama's religious pandering... |
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Comicstripper (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-27-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
121. ...because some people rely on clergy for moral decisions. Idiot. He didn't say it was a necessity. |
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
131. Because sometimes it's your pastor who gets you pregnant. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #131 |
134. agreed - religious leaders sexually abusing is world rampant |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
132. And why the hell do you think they don't |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-28-07 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
138. he was at best laughable at the debates - just like a broken clock... |
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