Hey, DK supporters!

[CalebHayes]

Do you really think he is electable? Do you really think he can beat Bush in 2004?

[MuseRider]

1. YES! n/t

[JohnKleeb]

3. da

:) err yes

[MuseRider]

4. HI John!

Hope you are fine. I will be back on more after the Peace Walkers come through. They are staying at my house so I have been too busy but I miss chatting with you. Sorry to hijack.

[JohnLocke]

5. Does DK have a better chance than Edwards?

[MuseRider]

8. I think so

but then that is just my opinion since I am really sold on DK. I like a lot about Edwards, however he is not my choice this time around.

[CalebHayes]

11. I think not

[dweller]

2. Undoubtedly! n/t

dp

[Deesh]

6. Hey Caleb...

In a big way, DK has ALREADY defeated Bush. DK has fought against corporate corruption all his political life. He cares passionately about ideas and is unafraid to speak his heart.

George Bush lacks the integrity to do any of those things. There's no contest about who is the most qualified to be a leader. Bush is physically taller than DK, but Bush is a moral midget next to Kucinich's integrity.

The fact that you have founded "The Anti-Bush" probably indicates that your heart and mind more closely mirror DK's. Congratulations on what you've done, and keep at it.

I don't know how close DK can come to the party's nomination. But he's already impressed a boatload of people, and changed the way a lot of people think. I would consider that a victory already.

[IndianaGreen]

7. Bush is the one that is not electable!

He had to rely on the Opus Dei cabal in the Supreme Court to stop the counting of ballots in Florida and appoint him President.

Bush will rely on Orange and Red Alerts to keep the public scared shitless, and assure himself of 4 more years in the White House.

Bush is the one that is not electable!

[CalebHayes]

10. In all fairness too Bush (even though he does not play fair) he did get

quite a few votes in 2000.

[genius]

9. Absolutely

Dennis is America's heart and soul and everyone who sees him speak knows it. His only problems are the media, an inexperienced campaign manager and a complete lack of judgment on the part of whoever is staffing his campaign. When he wins, it will be because he's the right guy for the job. He needs to take charge of his campaign and stop leaving it to amateurs.

[cryofan]

12. Yes, if we give him enough money to put out some good propaganda

DK is an economic leftist; he wants more wealth re-distribution and certain public services such as healthcare handled by the govt.

But there are enormously powerful vested interests and parties dead set against this idea. They control the media in many ways.

But if DK can buy enough TV, radio and billboard spots and really explain economic leftism, he CAN win. The proof is already given in European countries and Canada.

But it would take maybe 100 million dollars....just a wild assed guess there.

[dpbrown]

13. I think he's the best chance we've got, as I've said in these articles

While much is said about the attraction (directly resulting from money raised among activists) for Dean and Clark, there is an argument to be made that progressives ("lefties") hold the cards this election one way or the other. I made an argument like that in History and the Rise of Progressive Electoral Power Make Kucinich a Contender.

There's also an argument that can be made that the Democrats, despite the power of money driving the nomination process so far, have actually overshot the peak and are misjudging their "core" and that it lies further to the "left" than they're willing to admit - and using the rule election analysts call the 40/40/20 rule, that the nominee who captures the "Nader" voters along with the real Democratic core will be the only candidate who will be able to beat Bush by greater than the Black Box (and electoral vote shift) margin. (I made that argument in Where the Votes Are. I've also made that argument on DU - check the archives for "40/40/20" and I'm sure you'll find it.

So yeah, I not only think Kucinich is electable, I think he's our best chance to beat the unelected fraud and keep him from ever getting his first legitimate term of office.

To really get my feel for the way progressives are selling themselves short this time around, and seem willing to throw up their hands and surrender before they've even begun to fight, check out my short story, The Brainwashed Woman and the New Dawn.

This may be the best chance we'll ever have to throw the Republicans out of power. I hope we don't mess it up.

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota

edit: grammar

[nickgutierrez]

14. I think he can

I'd like to see him bring up the Department of Peace in the debates. Dubya's head would explode. Not to mention an exit plan in Iraq, a sound environmental plan, and big, clear domestic plans.

He'd destroy Shrub in the debate. And then take the election.

[corporatewhore]

15. Yes !!!!!!!

[DemBones DemBones]

16. Yes. A lot of people here at DU say they really like DK BUT

they think he's not electable so they're supporting someone else whom they like less but who seems "electable." People say the US isn't ready for a progressive like Kucinich in 2004.


There's a great poster "for the liberal protester" that reads:


What do we want?

GRADUAL CHANGE

When do we want it?

IN DUE COURSE


A little more activism is needed, a little more DETERMINED activism.

Pink tutus are passe. Get yourself a pair of shitkickers and get ready to rumble!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

21. That's what I see, DBDB

"What do we want?
GRADUAL CHANGE
When do we want it?
IN DUE COURSE"

Note that the Republicans never hold back. That's why they get more of what they want.

[Mairead]

17. Good heavens yes!

He's obviously electable.

During his early-November speech at the Afghani restaurant in Oakland he reckoned offhand that, counting primaries, he's stood in about 30 elections so far and won 20 of them. Two wins out of every three tries, across the political-office spectrum in an area with enormous diversity. That's excellent, much better than other candidates. He's won office as a legislator on 3 levels (big-city, state, and federal), as a functional manager on the big-city level, and as the chief executive of a Vermont-sized big city.

He has the respect of GOP opponents who think he's ideologically dreadful but someone who can be trusted to always play it straight--something that GOP and GOP-leaning voters also recognise about him.

If he hadn't stood up to the corporatocracy, he'd be where Voinovich is today. He'd be 'Senator Dennis Kucinich, former Governor of Ohio' and nobody would be asking about whether he's electable. But he did stand up to the corporatocracy, and so he's Congressman Kucinich. But the people of Cleveland are about $400M richer because of his sacrifice and he has no regrets.

It should be clear to everyone by now that he's still clear-eyed and as tough as nails, someone who always lays it on the line and will not sell us out.

Bush wouldn't have a hope.

[tinanator]

18. only if the votes are counted.

if so, oh yes.

[LWolf]

19. Absolutely.

I think the more America learns about Dennis Kucinich, the more they will vote for him. A vote for Dennis is a vote for:

1. Democracy
2. Our constitution
3. Social and Economic Justice
4. Diplomacy over aggression in international relations
5. Honesty; he says what he means.
6. Integrity; he does what he says.
7. People over corporations

How many Americans will vote for these things, when they are offered the choice?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

20. Why do you think he is being ignored?

Detractors say it's because his candidacy is "a joke," but look at the facts. He's no Pat Paulsen (the comedian who "ran for president" on a fake platform during the 1970s and 1980s). That campaign was a joke. No one, least of all Paulsen, did anything more than laugh at the idea.

Kucinich is a life-long Democrat with 30 years of experience in politics and media. He has a serious, well thought-out domestic and international platform, and he is the only candidate who wants to reverse the Reagan revolution instead of just slowing it down or putting bandages on the worst injuries.

The rich and powerful, the people who own the media, and even many of the reporters and on-camera personalities, benefited from the Reagan revolution, one of the most radical movements ever to occur in twentieth century American politics. They're afraid that a Kucinich presidency would, in the words of Jesse Jackson, "force the people who partied during the Reagan administration to pay their own way."

The other candidates are basically status quo types who won't do anything to upset the rich people but will let them feel good about themselves for funding Head Start.

[dpbrown]

22. He's the real insider outsider who can change the system

And that's why the faux "Democratic wing" Democrats steal his lines, and why the media is trying to marginalize him.