Sunday, nauseating Sunday

[lwcon]

Being a Z-list political blogger and all, I know it's my duty to watch the Sunday pundit shows.

Yet when each Lord's day rolls around, I duck and cover like a well-connected Republican during a military draft.

But bloggers never quit, and quitters never blog.

So, today I challenged myself to make it through either "The Chris Matthews Show" or "Meet The Press."

Like they sang in the old Lay's potato chips commercials: "he tried, but he couldn't do it."

On Matthews, I'd swear that excrement is literally spewing from Joe Klein's piehole, as he insightfully opines that Hillary and Bill in the White House would be an unthinkable return to those best-forgotten 1990s.

On Timmy's show, "Republican strategist" Mike Murphy bloviates that "Nixon is spinning in his grave. We used to be the very competent guys that run wars. Now, my view is our magnificent military and the Bush administration won the war. The Iraqi people have lost the politics of the peace." Damn you, Iraqi people, for defiling the legacy of war-president extraordinaire Richard M. Nixon! Let it weigh heavy on your souls!

TV. Off. Now.

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[wtmusic]

1. Nixon is roasting in hell

Vietnam was competent? Doesn't competence imply actually winning a war?

[lwcon]

3. What!? You don't think...

a "secret plan" to end the war that consisted of continuing and escalating the war for four more years before admitting it was unwinnable is competent?

Sadly, each day of Bush makes the Nixon years look more like a golden era of leadership. In fact, when Bush finally shipped off to Southeast Asia, he showed that he didn't figure out what even Nixon had:

"We hear voices calling for us to retreat from the world and close our doors to these opportunities," the president said in a speech at the National University of Singapore. "These are the old temptations of isolationism and protectionism, and America must reject them."

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[theoldman]

2. I put most of the blame of the Vietnam war on Johnson.

Nixon could have hero-ed by putting an end to it but waited until congress put a gun to his head. I just hope that the next president is a Democrat and that he/she knows how to stop a war. Remember that WWI or WWII are not an example to learn from. Ending an illegal war is a whole new ball game.

[lwcon]

4. Johnson's hands were very dirty re: Vietnam, of course...

But he at least recognized the shame of his failure. Nixon, as I noted in a previous comment, ran under the pretense of having a plan to end the war, and not only did he not end it during his first term, he started spreading it into neighboring countries.

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[AndyTiedye]

5. Nixon Had a "Secret Plan" to End the War

:nuke:

[Warpy]

6. The secret was that he intended to let it drag out

until he was out of office and maybe stick a Democrat with the blame for defeat.

Who knew?

[AndyTiedye]

7. Actually, His "Secret Plan" Was to NUKE Hanoi. Really

Fortunately, saner people prevailed and prevented that.

In the Bush** regime, all the sane people have been purged,
so if dear leader decides to nuke Iran, that's what will happen.

[lwcon]

8. Andy...

Could you suggest a good link that documents that? Sounds eminently plausible, but like the Watergate co-conspirators, I don't remember that at this particular point in time.

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[Lone_Wolf]

13. Kissinger was one of those "saner" people...

Kind of scary that Kissinger was the voice of reason in that crowd.

[StudentProgressive]

9. I met Matthews once

He's a celebrity tabloid journalist. He's more concerned with fawning over one superhero politician or another than getting to matters of what the people want and why the hell aren't the politicians working for us.

Sort of the anti-Amy Goodman.

[lwcon]

10. He clearly gets high off the Beltway fumes

He doesn't much care which way the wind blows, his supposed Tip O'Neill cred notwithstanding.

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[StudentProgressive]

11. One thing he said though

My friend who was with me at the time is a huge fan of his and keeps quoting this back to me.

Matthews said Gingrich is a "terrible person" and he's really afraid of seeing him run for President or something to that extent.

[lwcon]

12. That stuff just makes Tweety worse

He knows how bad these guys are, but he spends more than half his time sucking up to them.

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[AndyTiedye]

14. Sucking Up to Repiglcan Pols Is Tweety's JOB

That is what the network hires him to do.