Picture and Info on Alex Polier - Alleged Kerry Girl

[seventhson]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004071781,00.html


Presidential hopeful Kerry, dubbed the new JFK, has denied claims he had a two-year fling with brunette Alex Polier. Alex, 27, was a cross-country runner and in the world affairs club at her Philadelphia school.

One source said: “She was attractive, intelligent and one of the leaders in her year.”

She went on to graduate from Columbia University, New York, and met Kerry, 60, as she began a career as a freelance journalist.



Article also says she is in Africa with her fiance.

Boy - I would hate to be HIM.

[Dying Eagle]

1. The Sun

What a good source. Everything about this story has come from "shady" sources. This story is false. Just another pot shot at the front runner

[T_i_B]

61. Yep

Rupert Murdoch's tabloid. Dedicated to tits, "celebrity gossip", immigrant bashing, and the insanely bigoted rantings of Richard Littlejohn. :puke:

[T_i_B]

62. Yep

Rupert Murdoch's tabloid. Dedicated to tits, "celebrity gossip", immigrant bashing, and the insanely bigoted rantings of Richard Littlejohn. :puke:

[Scurrilous]

2. Hey...

...did you check out that page 3 thingy they've got. Now that's what I call quality journalism!

[NJCher]

3. she looks like your average college student

yawn. C'mon, RNC, can't you do better than this?


Cher

[Foswia]

4. Shes no "former" model. [nt]

[stepnw1f]

7. Start Our Own Rumour

Actually, how about that abortion?

[seventhson]

12. Hi Cher ! Kerry's no looker himself

But I thought I'd be the first to post a link for her picture if it had not been done so.

If it is a false story, then so be it.

If it is true, though, he should be out of this race in my opinion.

I never thought he deserved to be in it anyway as most here know.

But it IS newsworthy IMHO.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

17. Your last three lines say it all seventhson

You don't like Kerry so you're willing to believe any unsubstantiated story about him.

Why don't you go home, stew in your own bile and leave the young woman alone?

[seventhson]

22. Because I want to know the Truth about this

I agree with the Philapelphia News Editor on Newsnight with Aaron Brown who said she needs to come forward and tell her story because we have a short window to decide if Kerry is fit for this office and to be our nominee.

If this is true I think the tides will turn against him and we need to know that BEFORE he becomes the nominee.

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[Tinoire]

39. Oh please. Prostate surgery does not prevent squat.

Here you go. You have some reading to do!

After removal of the prostate, an orgasm's sensations can still occur though obviously highly altered by the lack of seminal fluid. Some time is required to recover from the usual hormone deprivation treatment. Impotence is a high likelihood.
With radiation treatment, it is possible for full sexual functions to return completely thereafter, as if nothing had happened! The prostate's tissues regenerate, replacing the less repairable the tumor. The erectile nerve system is relativeley radiaton-resistant.

http://www.protons.com/HORMONES.HTM

=== Now for your other point. I happen to care immensely. Kerry's a real hypocrite telling gay people they're unfit to honor marriage vows and yet...
I did not have sex with that woman.

A lie is a god-damn lie! If he can lie to his wife, he can lie to the American people.
I did not have sex with that woman.

Screw that.
Videos will be out next week according to right-wing sources.
I did not have sex with that woman.

Finger wagging in the face of die-hard, head-burying supporters.
I did not have sex with that woman.

DLC going after the Centrist vote?
I did not have sex with that woman.

Train wreck coming.
I did not have sex with that woman.

Thank God we're still in the Primaries! If he wasn't good enough for Gore in '99 because of his marital infidelities, he's not good enough for me.

Monica Lewinski
I did not have sex with that woman.

Donna Rice
I did not have sex with that woman.

Chandra Levy
I did not have sex with that woman.

No thank you. Not going through that again.

DOMA anyone?

On edit... And these insults on top of the Bush-enabling votes. On top of NAFTA, GATT, WTO, Plan Colombia?

My apologies to anyone unable to understand that this matters immensely to some of us.

[Tinoire]

40. How fit for the Democratic nomination is a man who voted for this?

[The Magistrate]

48. The Young Woman Has No Need To 'Come Forward", Mr. Son

Anyone who thinks she does, such as this editor you mention, has his own need, perhaps, but can better satisfy these in "gentlemen's clubs" or other such venues where professionals are available to cater to such tastes.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[janx]

51. The editor of the Philadelphia newspaper under discussion

is a woman.

[The Magistrate]

52. Which Hardly, Ma'am

Indicates her interest in the matter is not prurient, nor alters the greater propriety of seeking professionals to satisfy her voyuerism, rather than insisting some other young lady uninvolved in the trade step forward to satisfy her desires.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[janx]

53. Very funny.

No, I heard the woman. She will continue running the story to try and get to the bottom of what's going on--and to reveal the rumor as just a rumor, if that's what it amounts to.

[The Magistrate]

55. What is True Often is, Ma'am

Why do you think she cares about the matter?

If the young woman tells her to mind her own damned business, as any self respecting person would do to such a prurient busy-body, what possible response can this letch have to it?

The young woman has no responsibility to this termagant, or to Mr. Son, or to you, or to anyone else but herself in this matter.

"Can't nobody here play this game?"

[VolcanoJen]

59. BRAVA, The Magistrate, Sir.

Thanks for bringing me back 'round on this salacious, ludicrous "issue," as you often do, concerning most issues.

:-)

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[The Magistrate]

50. Our 'Hidden Masters' Are Devious Indeed, Ma'am

Those who would expose them dance to the tune of strings they feel not, while the puppeteers laugh....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

64. "Kerry's No Looker Himself"

Why don't you post an authenticated picture of yourself....


I'll throw $20.00 to the candidate of your choice...

[stickdog]

20. What were you expecting?

[fujiyama]

57. LOL

I have to admit, that was a good one!

[papau]

5. this story dies in 30 hours - there are no public facts - just Drudge

no credible media will touch it unless RNC or Bush says something - same rules as with Moore story on AWOL

YOU NEED THE CANDIDATE to act like they are endorsing it - OR THE CHAIR OF THE PARTY to say something -

Gillespie was offerred the chance tonight and refused.

[atldem]

10. Newsnight did

an entire segment on it.

Actually their segment was on the fact that the internet (us) is driving this story and they can't do anything about it. With right wing talk radio on for 6-7hrs. a day in some markets, everyone has heard about it.

It dawned on me the other day that the shills at the radio are key. They take the RNC talking points and distort the facts to what they want and then the nuts who believe them get on the net and report it as fact. The story gets picked up a zillion times by bloggers and idiots then the cable news starts talking about it and then it makes it to network news. No fact checking or research.

Thats how there is this incredible gap between the reality of George Bush and the public perception of him.

[papau]

18. true - I think the producer yanked Aaron's chain to show who is in charge

happens about once per week of late.

I am sure the GOP bias is covered as a "balance" to a midwest liberal anchor

[stickdog]

28. Gillespie suddenly rose above the muck because he wants to face Dean.

Right?

[KC21304]

6. Sure wish all you Kerry "lovers " would get your stories straight.

http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10968211&BRD=1672&PAG=461&dept_id=33380&rfi=6

[Straight Shooter]

8. Please don't call her the "kerry girl"

That's like being nicknamed -- oh, crap, I can't say it, the mods will be all over me. :evilgrin:

She is pretty.

Edit smilie

[MurikanDemocrat]

9. From the article:

"There is no evidence to support the claims."

I don't know why you would hate to be him. There's no reason to give any credibity to trash sources such as this. Kerry has categorically denied these rumors. There is absolutely no evidence to support the claim. This story is going nowhere.

Perhaps you are wishing this rumor will take Kerry down whether it is true or not. I think you are going to be disappointed.

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[SlavesandBulldozers]

13. i say God bless him

he's lived the American dream. Hung out at Camelot as a kid, fought commies in the jungle on a boat, protested, became a Senator, married a rich woman, possibly had a fling with a 27 year old when he was 60, and now he may get to be president. That sounds like a full life, i'd be happy to vote for him.

[sithknight]

14. but how bad is it?

Honestly, how bad is this? I've been a Kerry man since day one, but this has got me scared. I like him for purely pragmatic reasons: he can take the military and swing conservative vote from W. I know precisely what the GOP is doing here, there playing the morality card.
Hell, they've been in bed with the Christian Reich so long they just count it their ace in the hole. Honestly...I fear they may be right about that...
Now this whole thing smacks of a similar slanderous allegation that was made regarding Clinton and an AP reporter. YES, slanderous because this was actually one woman Clinton didn't bone.
But it is impossible for us to get out of Clinton's shadow at this point. He is such an icon for the American people, that mere association with him as a Democrat is tantamount to adultery.
So the question becomes: how bad is this? Assuming what I believe to be the truth; which is to say this is a pure lie: how much damage will it do? How many people will believe the lie despite the evidence?
And then <gulp> assuming the converse; that this is a true allegation: how much damage will it do?

To be clear on two other points: I still think, Hell or high-water, that Kerry is the best candidate. And I think that Bill Clinton is one of the best presidents we've had in the latter half of the twentieth century.

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[janx]

15. I'd hate to be him too.

The poor guy.

[bobthedrummer]

16. If Kerry gets the nomination he gets my vote.

I'm voting for Dennis Kucinich on Tuesday in WI. though.
Then ABB.

[seventhson]

19. The Media is all over this story. The "Silence" is deafening.

From the link posted above:

"This is more excitement than we're ever used to having," she said.
Calabrese was scanning the crowd of 20 or so media members that had gathered on Madeline Drive outside the home of her neighbors.
Local print and television media, a CNN camera crew, an NBC crew, a New York Times reporter and two reporters that are employed by an agency that works for The (London) Sun had staked out the house.
Calabrese seemed more fascinated with the media attention than with the possibility that the family's daughter reportedly had a relationship with Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.
"The story here is the story behind the story," said Calabrese, who has lived in the neighborhood outside of Malvern for 11 years.
She said she had received telephone calls from reporters at the Los Angeles Times and a Washington, D.C. paper - she could not recall the name - the night before.
East Whiteland Police Sgt. James Smith sat in a police vehicle, along with a line of cars and vans, across the street from the pale green and stone ranch house."

http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10968211&BRD=1672&PAG=...



CNN, NYTimes, NBC, and some 20 media members staked out at her parent's house.

THIS is a real story and you cannot wish it away.

I posted her picture because it IS a story. Maybe it is a total lie. But I want to know the facts and not pretend it doen't exist.

I want to hear HER deny it.

And because there are allegations of letters and a "friend" of hers alleging "fantastic stories" I, for one, want to know all I can so I can make an intelligent judgment about this.

I do NOT think Kerry is fit to be president. If this is true I think it demonstrates his poor judgment very clearly.

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[seventhson]

29. I believe the fate of our country is in the balance

so...

No, I don't get bored.

I am hopeful that a better man (or woman) than Kerry will be the nominee

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[rucky]

24. They got a photo. Parents talked. This story is not going away

[King of New Orleans]

32. Kind of odd

That the Sun didn't repeat the parents quotes in this brief little blurb eh?

[TheWebHead]

38. The Sun frequently fabricates quotes

though normally in the celebrity world obviously.

[MarianJack]

25. Article also says...

...that there is no evidence to support the claims.

Funny, the anti JK bile of some DU'ers is starting to be annoyingly sickening.

[Birthmark]

26. And still I wait for a single piece of supporting evidence.

I'm starting to think that this whole thing is a distraction. </sarcasm>

[Screaming Lord Byron]

27. Looks like the story's false. Better luck next time.

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[Woodstock]

33. EEEWW, what is the Sun, a porno site?

What a seriously creepy site.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

36. It's possibly the worst Tabloid on the face of the planet.

[flamingyouth]

34. From article: "There is no evidence to support the claims"

Then, uh, why are they running it? :shrug:

[FrenchieCat]

37. Cause they can...

and no one is going to stop them...it's called Mediacracy.....

Has taken over from Democracy.........

[mountainvue]

43. Money.

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[Tinoire]

42. With whose votes? The DLC's? Moral Middle-American swing voters

eager to protect their fresh, nubile daughters from old leches? And without the vote of Progressives?


No more lies. No more liars. And most of all, no idiots who were stupid enough to be "mis-led" about the war. Not when there are obviously more astute men running.

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[The Magistrate]

46. We Both Know, Ma'am

Gov. Dean will get much above twenty percent of the vote in Wisconsin next Teusday. This tabloid drivel will make no difference to it at all. It really is not getting much coverage, and is unlikely to get more than it is now. There is as yet no particular reason to believe the tale is true, and much reason to suspect exaggeration would be the kindest term to describe it..

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Spider Jerusalem]

47. Moral? Haha.

I think you mean "unthinking bourgeois sheep who accept everything the media tells them regardless of verification". These are unsubstantiated rumours, at present, and, should they prove to be more, "morality" doesn't enter into the picture, as anything that goes on in Kerry's marriage is between himself and his wife, and certainly no concern of the electorate; and IF there's any basis to the allegations of a relationship with this young woman, she is certainly of legal age and presumably capable of making her own moral choices.

To paint a young woman who enters knowingly into a relationship with an older and powerful married man as a victim strikes me as at best simplistic, as one would think she had certain ulterior motives of her own for doing so; the hope of his using his influence to further her career, for instance.

I won't believe there's anything to this without evidence, BUT, in such situations, guilt is never all on one side, even though it may be easier to see things that way.

(And as an aside, was Howard Dean "misled" when, in September of '02, he stated his support for unilateral US action should Iraq fail to comply fully with a United Nations resolution? Or is his opposition now a lie? If you're looking for a moral exemplar, a politician is rarely going to fit the bill, no matter how much you wish he did.)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

65. What Part Of John Kerry Decisively Defeated Your Candidate Do You Not

Understand?

[King of New Orleans]

44. While there is a segment of Dean supporters

I can't stand, I do my best to not let it spill over to the candidate or those you have work hard for them but still have some perspective. The fact is there are some people here who have been working almost night and day for Dean for six months before I even bothered to pay any attention to the candidates. I do think the Dean campaign is in for a hard landing, but I don't think it's something to view with glee.

Let them go thru the unwinding process (for lack of a better term).

[oasis]

54. The weak, lame so-called "Intern" story will go nowhere. Kerry will

not tolerate many more questions about this nonsense. Credible right wing pundits will not try to push this because it is devoid of content and easily debunked. And where are the camera crews around the woman's house hounding her? In Africa?

fugeddaboudit.

[Adjoran]

56. Unfortunately

it is not up to Senator Kerry whether he takes these questions or not from now on. He can refuse to answer them, but he is going to get them. The more he declines to talk to the press, the bigger the story becomes.

But it is beyond management at this point. Kerry denied it flatly. If he told the truth, that will come out. If he didn't, that will come out, too.

His denial means it HAS to be false. If he lied, he is toast. He could possibly have just refused to answer at all, but he is locked into a position now. No way to get in front of the coverage anymore.

All we can really do now is wait and see. There are too many news organizations who want to be the first to find out, so the truth will be known. The only thing we can really do now is wait and see.

Rove's wet dream is that it is true, Kerry denies, and the media investigation drags on forever.

[dkf]

58. What adds to this story is the point that

Al Gore ruled out Kerry for VP in part because he was aware of stories of Kerry cheating on Teresa Heinz. This was prior to the intern that is now being discussed.

Face it, Kerry has a serious reputation as a serial philanderer.

Do we really want another one in the White House? Problem may not be that Kerry will lose, it is that Kerry may win and humiliate us all.

[VolcanoJen]

60. Linky?

Al Gore ruled out John Kerry as VP solely due to rumours of infidelity, prior to the "intern" (RW BuzzWord O' The Era)??? I'd love to see someone going on record admitting that was the reason.

Link, please? Source? Anything?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. Kerry Won't Have Been The First Or Last Pres To Play "Hide The Banana"

NT

[OKNancy]

63. Then more that comes out, the more it looks like hogwash

From an article posted in LBN

http://www.phoenixvillenews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10968863&BRD=1673

Daily Local News reporter Jessica M. McRorie, who interned with the East Whiteland woman at ABC News in Manhattan in 2001, also questioned the reports

When I heard the news ... I kind of laughed to myself because I know this person," she said. "And it just doesn't seem logical.
"But then my immediate reaction after that was how hard it must be for her now ... to just try to keep sane because there's going to be a media circus in this because John Kerry's big in the news."


In the more than two years since she has known her, McRorie said she never heard her friend mention Kerry.

McRorie, who still keeps in touch with her friend, heard from her about six months ago. "The last time I talked to her she'd sent me an e-mail from Israel where she was honeymooning," she said.

[Darth_Kitten]

67. I think this is a case.....

where the Polier family wants to advance their daughter's exposure and "help" her career. Sickening. She's nothing I would want to run after if I were in politics. ;)

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