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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 06:05 PM Original message |
"The American Left's Silly Victim Complex"... Matt Taibbi |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. What a crock of shit. What parts do you think are "right on." |
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pstans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. American Left = DLC in this article |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Nope... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think you are reading this differently than I am. Here are 2 paragraphs. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Didn't say sympathy... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Right, the DLC was formed so they could screw average people... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That is not what it says...nt |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. sure it is. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Exactly... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Taibbi is most certainly no DLC stooge... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. COurse I do... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I think he's throwing up his hands and saying "I give up, these folks are nuts." |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I think so too... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. how so? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. ... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. fair enough. n/t |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
69. That is EXACTLY what it says, in plain language |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 05:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
60. Madflo, you might want to revisit the writing Taibbi did for The Nation |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. Someone gave me a copy of AdBusters once |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
51. It's kind of ironic that AdBusters embodies a lot of things |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. CROCK ALERT. Why do "WE" let "THEM" define us? The op is a CROP OF |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. I've been saying what Taibbi's saying since I've started posting |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. How do they appeal soley to "caviar leftists" |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. I've mingled with the caviar left n/t |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 06:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
66. Oh stop! Many of us are not part of the investor elite - Liberals NOT Leftists. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. David Sirota: "“Perhaps what the real issue is that the left is not really a grassroots movement,” |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
67. So you agree that the DLC sold out working people for corportate dollars, yes? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
16. I'll say it - he's got some good points. |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. The people who DEFINE the left ARE making that much money |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. media-drive stereotype. |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Not a media-driven stereotype. I've seen it with my own eyes n/t |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. you've seen the "definition of the left"? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. What does one wear as a spectator to a yuppie orgie? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. My question is, where ARE these yuppie orgies? |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Manhattan |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. To be frank, I don't give a shit what people do on their free time.... |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. How am I full of shit? What do you think young rich people do in their spare time? n/t |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I guess that depends on the individual, not the group, don't you think? |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. You're 100% right. But I am NOT making my anecdote up!!!! n/t |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. First you offer no proof, second it has no relation to this thread... |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. How can I offer proof? Do you want pictures? n/t |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
76. Sounds like the '80s to me. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. folks like David Sirota. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Again, do you know the people you're talking about |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I'm not imagining it. I'm just out of college. It's a reality. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
54. This is where I break from this group. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
24. An article replete with stereotypes, and its supposed to be somehow insightful? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. And sounds a bit too much like Rush Limbaugh to me |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Not Rush, pseudo-intellectualism at least SOUNDS intelligent, even if incorrect... |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
61. Matt Taibbi is a major, major |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 03:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
59. +1 |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
32. Darn those issues people anyway. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. hey, mf, that's pretty funny |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
36. More Taibbi....how about it. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. WHat's the point? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. yeah... yeah... that's correct. |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 05:35 AM Response to Reply #36 |
62. You want Taibbi? I'll give you Taibbi |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
75. Interesting comment on Michael Moore. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
43. Gee, you all have much in common with budding European Fascism of 1930s ... |
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ludwigb (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
70. Comparing American political movements to Nazism is tricky at best |
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pretty_lies (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
45. I Love Matt Taibbi And Want His Babies |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Joe isn't a member of the Democratic party. n/t |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 02:50 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Anyone who feels comfortable with us is welcome I reckon |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
52. Taibbi's a smart guy |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. He pulled some stuff like this during the primaries. |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Agreed. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
57. Fuck Mark Taibbi, rinse, lather, repeat |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 06:19 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. IMO Mark Taibbi is a Smart-ASS Guy. This is just another "hit piece" on the party base. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
58. ?? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
63. This paragraph says alot |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Perhaps the Author is dating Coulter? He's using many of the right's tactics re: attacking liberals. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
68. One piece of meat in this article; the rest is miracle whip |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. When you attack your own you get attention....Taibbi is getting attention. |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
72. Matt Taibbi, the acid dropping Hunter Thompson wannabe? |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
73. Interesting what he says here about the DLC as part of this sweeping generalization |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
74. Bullshit..I ain't |
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