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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:11 PM Original message |
Obama's sleazy move with the memo to the Times and his attachment to Colin. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Every piece of advice from Colin Powell has to be judged on it's own merits separately. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:05 PM Original message |
You can't? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
47. If Ann Coulter said the sky was blue, you are not required to then think it's green. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. I would think Barack is smarter than to get advice from a guy that had reservations about Iraq yet, |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 08:12 AM Response to Reply #47 |
119. but it says something about your ability to make good choices |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #119 |
123. actually, if I wanted to learn how the GOP smear machine worked I'd DEFINATELY talk to Coulter |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #123 |
144. "self righteous bubble not in touch with reality? " |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. So do you give the same benefit of the doubt to George W. Bush? Why not? Colin is disgraceful |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. See #47. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. This is common sense: If Powell had not been loyal to Bush and stood his ground would we be in IRaq? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
93. Don't change the subject. n/t |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #93 |
102. I'm not. You're talking common sense. Colin is a big reason we are there. And barack takes advice |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #102 |
110. Now you can go all the way back to #1. n/t |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #110 |
126. Again, I stand by the fact that had he stood up for what he thought was right we wouldn't be in Iraq |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #102 |
137. Bush is the BIGGEST reason we're there and Clintons stood PUBLICLY to support his policies |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #60 |
150. Bush isn't qualified to give advice, Powell is |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. So being in the Clinton camp puts you in the sleaze-free zone...feel better now? |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The magnificent power of dissonance reduction makes it so. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. Huh? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. If the war is your big issue, why give one who voted to launch it a pass? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Why do you give the man who actually helped launch it a pass? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Nice one! Hillary didn't just vote for the IWR, she was beating her own fucking set of war drums... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. below is the Oct 10, 2002 floor speech you reference - what do you object to in that speech beyond |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Ah...so it was the "Give Chimpy Bargaining Power" Resolution? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. The IWR delayed the war |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Let's imagine a world in which HRC voted against the IWR |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
129. You are so accurate... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Everyone forgets what state HRC represents, too--the state where the WTC got knocked down |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. I don't know about that. We had a million people marching in the streets in NYC |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
140. All I can tell you is this--I was travelling between NYC and DC a lot during that period |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Good post. 50% of people STILL believe Saddam was behind 9-11! nt |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Now you're just grasping at straws. NT |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Totally desperate grab o' straw. Hillary = Ghouliani? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
130. Yes, there is a poll verifying your post.. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
74. I am voting for the person who is a feminist, has not done anything sleazy in her campaign |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Think about this. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Did Obama vote no to the Iraq war? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Do you really not know? n/t |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #90 |
105. No, I know. I just think its interesting that he can give people so much criticism over something |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #105 |
115. "And I'm supposed to assume he would have voted no?" |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #115 |
131. Not a bona-fied claim...seeing he wasn't there to vote.. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. Spoken like a true Blind Hillaryphile (say anything, do anything to win). |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #141 |
148. Why change the subject and call me names? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #74 |
138. Deleted message |
draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. The hero worship is amazing. Imagine if HRC was getting advice from Powell or Wolfowitz |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Well... |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. The issue is Obama supporters |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Kissinger? Wolfowitz? Dude, that messed up. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. Powell is almost as bad as Wolfowitz nt |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Try Condi. She's young, hip, smiles nice. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
64. I have free will. I listened to him. I liked him. His voting record is impeccable. I could be swayed |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. This won't help Edwards win n/t |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Ah...the poster supports Fmr. Senator "Co-Sponsor"... |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. 2002 forever! Hey, did you know Obama wants to continue military operations indefinitely in Iraq? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. You haven't been paying attention. Months ago, a fellow DUer was asking for supporters |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
55. I probably didn't post here then... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
71. How in the world can you claim he's no different on Iraq than Hillary? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #55 |
132. I have to correct you on this.. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. Hey do you know Edwards repeats whatever Trippi tells him |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Edwards were out there drumming up support for the War even |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. Hillary led the war cry |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Hillary led the war cry?! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Where was Bill? |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Ok, first of all, we were talking about Hillary. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. The Clintons supported all Bush said |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I'm aware that Bill and some of his advisers were supporting the war behind the scenes |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Obama was |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. He was in a different position than the rest of them, though he does deserve credit. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Well, she did |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. This was delivered the day before the vote took place |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Bush "will seek to avoid war" |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. "it's really not comparable to those who were in Washington and had to make the decision" |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Yeah, I believe he said he didn't know how he would have voted had he been in the Senate |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Damn. So on the sacred IWR he didn't know what he would have done if he had intelligence? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. He said that to avoid undermining the Kerry and Edwards in the middle of the |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Delete dupe |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
15. I guess consulting with Powell is wrong, but hanging out with him is OK, then? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Folks can flame away if they wish but i respect Colin Powell. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I have no problem with Powell's expertise and consulting with him. But the Clinton |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. Put "Colin Powell My Lai" into any search engine. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
128. It's a pretty big fuck up. IN fact, it cost him presidential hopes. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Powell was also Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff early in the Clinton Administration |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. He wasn't a war criminal then |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. That is troubling but not nearly as bad. Why? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. And how do you know that Clinton and Powell weren't talking shop? NT |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
133. I guess you've lost your way... |
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
18. I see nothing wrong with getting advice from Colin Powell. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
68. Check out Charllie Rose, last night. Brzezinski, Scowcroft, Kissinger were on. Brzezinski |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Scowcroft is advising Mitt Romney...I wonder if Romney will listen? NT |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
134. Romney is a complete and utter |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Who is she listening to now? She listened to Lord Chimpy himself before...which is what got us |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. POwell got us into this mess. He, Bush, Rumsfeld and Condi and Wolfowitz. Part of the Cabal. |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
40. People like you are the reason I wouldn't vote |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. You're not going to vote for her because you don't like what some of her supporteres say? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. You are in sparse company. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
66. Explain that one? People who believe a candidate when they say they are running a |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. I'm curious. You were considering supporting Obama... |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. At first I liked him. I believe that our political system does not favor women and children. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Ok. Thanks for clarifying. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Thanks for a civil response. Hillary supporters get a lot of flack. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
41. powell has been advising many people of both parties. grow up. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. You "grow up". Powell gained his position through corruption. He doesn't get a pass just because |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. yes |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
92. Grow up. Powell is an honorable and intelligent man who was misled |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Powell is as big a war criminal as the rest of the Bush gang nt |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #96 |
108. Right on! |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 02:56 AM Response to Reply #108 |
112. It's a shame when politics gets reduced to this scum-sucking level. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #112 |
124. YEah, like sending non attributal memoes to press. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 02:54 AM Response to Reply #96 |
111. I'll reserve that term for those who authorized Abu Gharib. nt |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #92 |
122. Powell covered up atrocities in Vietnam and the Republicans paid him back by giving him power. (nt) |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
52. So I guess Bill Clinton hanging out with G.W. Bush is fine by you? |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. No, it bothers me. He's not running for President. His wife, the feminist is! Go Hillary! |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
76. Senator Clinton was licking Powell's boots when the war was starting |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. I have a visceral reactio to a candidate that claims they are moral and then act immorally. He is |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. So is it wrong for Bill Clinton to be friends with Powell? NT |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #81 |
147. So no issue with Senator Clinton's hawkish talk and IWR vote? |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
79. Candidates receive advice from many people...doesn't mean they follow all of them! |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Colin eeded to stand up for principal - there were lives at stake. He didn't . He was loyal to chimp |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I don't remember Hillary standing up for principal when military operations started in Iraq? |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Colin was Secretary of State! If anyone needed to he did! Also, the details of the vote were not: |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Okay...so by your rational, she should have spoke up when they did attack. BUT SHE DIDN'T |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. She was right alongside the chimp-in-chief, banging her own set of war drums... |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Deal with it |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:11 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Hmmm..holier than thou? Those are words for the candidate who had the conversion. NOt the feminist. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #98 |
118. Does the fact that he inspires offend you? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #94 |
117. Your crazed screaminess aside, we do agree on this ... |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:14 AM Response to Reply #89 |
101. The point of my post is Obama is not so ethical. The memo was my final proof on this. |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. So are you saying the Clintons (or others) don't do Opposition Research memos? |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
91. Colin Powell is an honorable man who was misled and made a tragic blunder. |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-16-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. I am too Cal... it's a polticially savvy move. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. If Hilary was talking to Colin I think the threads would be all over it. I am surprised to see Barac |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 02:58 AM Response to Reply #99 |
113. Colin Powell is someone who SHOULD be consulted with. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #91 |
100. With colin's advice I guess we;ll be in Iran next. think of the soldiers, Cal. |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #100 |
104. And we will also know what Hillary's vote for an impeding Iran War would be, right? nt |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:22 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. I thought we were talking about Obama listening to a man who lied about going to war. KNOWINGLY! |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 03:02 AM Response to Reply #106 |
114. You have no proof of that. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:23 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. P.S. The point here is that Obama may not be that much different from the other candidates. Vote |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Obama is Different. Spoke out against the IWR, while your candidate stayed Silent when Miltary... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 08:21 AM Response to Reply #109 |
121. She didn't stay silent. She was a vocal proponent of Chimpy's invasion... |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #121 |
127. And colin is spineless and Obama is an egomaniac. Great combo. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #127 |
142. Hillary's ever-evolving political calculations on the War in Iraq... |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #109 |
125. He is no different. His ego is driving him. Its time to put the country first. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 12:48 AM Response to Reply #109 |
149. Wow, now there's a reason to put the whole country under the leadership of this man! |
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Mutineer (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
116. This is why I don't make the mistake anymore of making politicans |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
120. Obama and sleazy now theres two words that fir together perfectly! NT |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #120 |
135. Mussen't forget, HYPOCRITE! |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. Also, you can't forget the Clintons being quiet when military attacks started in Iraq |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. Kerry, Dean and Clark were calling for Rumsfeld to go and Clintons wouldn't back them up |
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FreeStateDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
145. Has Obama stated whether or not Powell would be offered a policy position if Obama is elected? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Only in the fevered minds of a few DUers. NT |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:44 AM Response to Reply #145 |
151. What better. cheap, easy way to further his "unity" agenda than appoint Powell to a high position? |
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