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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:12 PM
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Taking Dean's advice...Hillary conceding nothing...warmly welcomed in Oklahoma and Texas...
Hillary raked in 282,000 at one event in Oklahoma....

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--clintonvisit0617jun17,0,7305866.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

Greeted like a rock star at an event in FortWorth



FORT WORTH -- Frances Rodriguez stood in the rain outside a north side restaurant for hours Saturday morning, hoping to catch a glimpse of Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Her patience was eventually rewarded. As a caravan of black SUVs pulled behind Joe T. Garcia's Mexican Restaurant, she yelled, "There she is."

Clinton turned her head, waved and smiled at Rodriguez and a small group of supporters, before the vehicle parked and Clinton went inside for a private fundraiser.

"I just love that woman," Rodriguez, 56, said with a smile. "I'm a nobody, but when she becomes president, I'll be somebody."

...

Indi Jones of Fort Worth took her 9-year-old daughter, Bailey, to the event. Bailey wore a button that said, "I can be president."

"It was important to me because I wanted Bailey to see that ... a president, an effective president, can be a girl," Jones said.

Jesse Lancarte, a co-owner of Joe T's, said he shut down about 60 percent of the restaurant Saturday morning to accommodate the fundraisers. He and others had a chance to pose for a "family picture" with Clinton, and he said he was very impressed.

"She's very charismatic," he said.

A new poll this week showed Clinton leading other Democrats among Texas voters, with 33 percent of the support to Barack Obama's 21 percent and 10 percent for Al Gore. Other Democrats were in the single digits.


http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/140112.html
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:20 PM
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1. That's my girl!
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DemKR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:24 PM
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2. GO HILLARY!!! YAYAYAYAYAYAYY
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:26 PM
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3. Hillary isn't charismatic. I could sleep through her speeches
If it wasn't for Bill Clinton, Hillary would not be running for President now.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:34 PM
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5. Her speeches run hot and cold. Some are great and some are terrible. nt
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:36 PM
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6. Agreed.
I've seen her give some really good ones and I've seen her give some not-so-good ones. But, even on her worst days, she's not as bad as Bush, so it will be a welcome change.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:07 PM
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15. She won't be running aganst Bush. (nt)
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:09 PM
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16. Really! OMG - I'm shocked!!!!!
:sarcasm:

Did I say she would be running against Bush? Nooooo . . . but as the (possible) next occupant of the White House, she'd be a lot better than the current occupant, in many ways. Hence the comparison.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:14 PM
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18. My point is that she might be able to win against Bush, but not against a non-Bush Republican. (nt)
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:01 PM
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9. If she hadn't married Bill she would have been running
for President a lot sooner.
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:28 PM
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19. Have you experienced her directly?
Like the woman quoted?
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 12:58 PM
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21. No and am not inclined to go out of my way to do so.
Based my impressions of her on her performances on TV as well as what I've read about her from online newspapers, like asiatimes, which discussed her wooing of India and support of outsourcing good paying American jobs.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:28 PM
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4. Also in Upper Valley N.H. they had to turn people away.
She had to go outside to meet them.

So much for the people that say she can't draw a crowd.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:56 PM
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7. I wonder why they were against this strategy when their good friend McAuliffe was running DNC?
Guess they didn't want it in action in 2000, 2002 or 2004.

Why would they when they were planning to run in 2008?


This talk by historian Douglas Brinkley occurred in April 2004:


http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354


Whom does the biographer think his subject will pick as a running mate? Not Hillary Rodham Clinton. "There's really two different Democratic parties right now: there's the Clintons and Terry McAuliffe and the DNC and then there's the Kerry upstarts. John Kerry had one of the great advantages in life by being considered to get the nomination in December. He watched every Democrat in the country flee from him, and the Clintons really stick the knife in his back a bunch of times, so he's able to really see who was loyal to him and who wasn't. That's a very useful thing in life."




http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward



Did Carville Tip Bush Off to Kerry Strategy (Woodward)

By M.J. Rosenberg |

I just came across a troubling incident that Bob Woodward reports in his new book. Very troubling.
On page 344, Woodward describes the doings at the White House in the early morning hours of Wednesday, the day after the '04 election.

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

So what happened?

James Carville gets on the phone with his wife, Mary Matalin, who is at the White House with Bush.

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio -- perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

"Matalin went to Cheney to report...You better tell the President Cheney told her."

Matalin does, advising Bush that "somebody in authority needed to get in touch with J. Kenneth Blackwell, the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who would be in charge of any challenge to the provisional votes." An SOS goes out to Blackwell.
>>>>>>>>




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg




Wonder why?


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html


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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:57 PM
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8. I wonder why they were against DEAN. The thread title is good for a laugh actually
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:19 PM
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12. Cracked me up.
:hi:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:03 PM
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10. 300 people in Oklahoma is good for a Democrat, I think. NT
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:01 PM
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14. Paying $1000 a piece?
Very good!
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:12 PM
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17. yes, fly in and take the money and run
what a way to party build
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 06:55 PM
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20. "Party build" - not her job.
Not the job of any Presidential candidate (Repub or Dem) during a campaign.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:17 PM
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11. I hope she comes to Austin soon
Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 02:27 PM by NoPasaran
I've already seen Obama and Edwards.

And of course there was this recent poll showing Hillary as actually being competitive in Texas...
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ooga booga Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:42 PM
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13. This is not so surprising.
She's in front of a relatively small group of Democrats in these events. Even Texas and Oklahoma can manage that.

Now, if she could manage to carry either Texas or Oklahoma in their primaries and then -- better yet -- carry either of them in the general election -- THAT would TRULY be something!!

Since Texas hasn't gone to a Democrat since Carter in 1976, it would seem highly unlikely, but strange paradigm shifting things are starting to happen down here in Texas. Who knows?
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ooga booga Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 05:10 PM
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23. It WAS a astute move to bring her to Joe T. Garcia's
If you're comin' to Foat Wuth and you wanna fit it with the locals....go to Joe T.'s. No doubt that the folks at the Tarrant County Democratic HQ set that up. Dinner on the patio at Joe T.'s THAT'S definitely the way to make a memorable political visit to Cowtown.
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churchofreality Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:20 PM
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22. GO HILLARY!
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