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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:19 AM Original message |
Obama believes Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Libby, and Wolfowitz are noble, patriotic souls? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yes. Yes he does...with all his heart. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Which part of his words do you disagree with? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Deleted sub-thread |
JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. that source is not credible |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Did he say these things in his book or not? nt |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I heard him say pn MTP that raising the Social Security age |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I watch MTP every week. I did not hear him say that |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. The truth shall set you free. Here it is |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. You are right I am wrong , it was "This Week" w/ Geo. Stephanopolus |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. wsws? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Did he say these things in HIS book or not? |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Oh you mean Let's stop the bull shit from the Edwards supporter |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. In other words, the quotes are true? nt |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. What words? "Noble" and "patriotic"? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. He said the out of context sentences you quoted. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. What is the context? nt |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
50. they were in his book, the anti-democratic party analysis was not |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
8. Oh great...If true, a Trojan Horse, another one...just terrific. K*R |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. I agree, especially on the New Deal. We need to return to our progressive roots |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
9. The John Edwards campaign: A representative of the American ruling elite postures as a working class |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. Interesting find. I wonder if the OP believes that article? NT |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Go figure!! |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
10. Hillary Clinton in Detroit: Democrat preaches American nationalism to union bureaucracy |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
14. Like I said yesterday Sleaze and Obama just go natural in the same sentence. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
15. Isn't there a rule against one poster going after an elected Democrat? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Yeah, we need a sort of Patriot Act to silence unruly Dems who dare to question The Messiah! |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
43. So Edwards and Clinton can be scrutinized in the same way: |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. ..need a Patriot Act to silence unruly Dems who dare to question The Messiah and her husband |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
68. Democracy is based on truth not manipulation... |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. What about what is in Obama's book? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Exactly. Not a single Obama supporter disputes that he said these things in his book |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
71. Context is everything. You might consider reading the book |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
47. No shit. It's like Obama shit in his Cheerios or something. Like dayum... Take a chill. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
16. very interesting find. I do disagree with you equating all of this to third way philosophy, though |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. "Obama isn't the person many of his supporters believe him to be" |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. That's like saying Hillary's a fundie |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. What about his praise for Clinton's Third Way on pg. 34 of his book? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. You want to give us a paragraph or two from page 34? NT |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
22. It is the polite thing to say, such as when your wife asks you if a particular outfit makes her look |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It goes beyond rhetoric. He is now being advised by one of *'s war criminals nt |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. LOL @ draft_mario_cuomo |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Hit piece? What parts of the article do you disagree with? These quotes are from BO's book! |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. LOL@draft_mario_cumuo |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. If equal time were a mandate.. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
31. You should see what that publication says about John Edwards: |
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Alexia Wheaton (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. Is there another source? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Yes, here is another source |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
35. Oh boy. Now there's a reputable source. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. You are a big Obama supporter. Surely you have read his book |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. I have read the book and i'm not disputing that the quotes are there (though i haven't checked). |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
37. Well... I Think It's Time That The DEMOCRATS Decide NOT To Have |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. This is part of the democratic process |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
41. You haven't answered my question. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 03:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
60. MGK This maybe what your looking for- |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 07:04 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Thanks. I just don't see the words "noble" or "patriotic" |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
48. Its called civility. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 01:31 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Really? So why haven't any Obama supporters disputed the content of the article? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. If you read the book |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. The OP is an Edwards supporter. NT |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. Yes but as usual.. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Being nasty |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. One doesn't have... |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
52. GO KUCINICH! |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
55. What's new? More smearing by DMC. |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
56. What a cop out, poon tang answer. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
57. Does this mean he's going to try to be nice to Swift Boaters instead of fighting back? n/t |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
58. DMC, if your logic is correct, wouldn't Obama have been a cheerleader for the Iraq War with NeoCons? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. No one is saying he is a neocon. He simply thinks the neocons are good people... |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. False premise, unsupported conclusion, and slanderous speculation. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
63. I get the idea.. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
64. I don't think Obama has 'soul' |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
69. I agree with everything he says. When you stop viewing his words |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
70. If that article is credible by your standards, I presume you will find this one equally credible |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. What I found interesting were the quotes from Obama's own book |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. See post #71 |
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