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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:28 PM Original message |
What differences are there between the platforms of Obama and HRC? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. Throw Edwards into the mix, too. NT |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That would be too complicated. Let's save that for another thread. HRC and BO are our front-runners |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It'd be much more interesting with the top 3. Is Edwards not important enough? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Efficiency |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Seems you've been playing Clinton and Obama against each other and leaving |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. 40 views and not one post about a difference yet? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I think Edwards is warming by the fire while the snowball fight ensues (nt) |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I just want to get this snowball fight a little more egalitarian. NT |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. All three are running on something other than policy statements |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Substance doesn't matter? Is this an election for POTUS or freshman class prez? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Ask Edwards; his "serious plans" are just as much to make him look serious |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. So substance doesn't matter? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I wouldn't put much stock in what any of them say about policy |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. So what should we vote on? Smiles? Do you think Obama and HRC are identical on substance? nt |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I trust Obama to be less conservative than Hillary |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. "Trust", "instincts", "inclined". These are all faith-based |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. It's a balance, as I've pointed out, but you're determined to try and pick fights |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
11. The difference is IMO perceived elect-ability. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I agree. Also, we need to find out whether Obama is a HRC-type Third Way candidate |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. first two years in carters presidency |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
17. Ok. Here is one major difference: Universal health care |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Obama is into taking smaller steps & bringing all on board - his energy plan includes coal n/t |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. What's that have to do with health care? NT |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. The OP's question was "platform aside from Health Care" |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. It was posted under "Ok. Here is one major difference: Universal health care" |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. no problem - only problem is my mind works not always the same as other folks :-) n/t |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. What about Edwards' health care plan? I've looked all over and can't find how he'll |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Under Edwards there are no uninsured - it requires all American residents to get insurance with poor |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. So it's very much like Obama's (and I haven't looked up Clinton's yet), except |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. "universal" is only possible with the "mandate" if you do not go single payer via taxes. 75% of |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. No. Edwards' plan covers everyone; Obama's plan leaves at LEAST 15 million uninsured nt |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. John Edwards' Fuzzy Insurance Math: |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
29. Anyone? I thought Obama was a progressive "change" candidate and HRC a corporate DLC shill? |
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FarOut (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Hillary has experience, Obama not so much |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Welcome to DU!... |
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LBJDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Hahaha. I've asked this question before |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Exactly. It is both amusing and scary |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
34. Aside from the fact that Obama respects the Constitution and doesn't like "dumb" wars... |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:13 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. So the only real difference is on flag burning? |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
36. For starters, the ability to actually carry out the platform |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Thanks for the response |
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