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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 01:56 PM Original message |
Is Obama profiting from health care? |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. why do you hate Senator Obama? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Are these allegations true? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Seeing that none of his supporters have a bonafide objection... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
46. How many people have Bill and Hillary "taken out"? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Apples and oranges. The things in the OP are clear-cut and can easily be disproven if false |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. The things in my post above are just as "clear cut" as the filth you have now resorted to. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Post a thread on it instead of using a Hannity tactic to divert attention from the issue at hand nt |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. Did 'Junk Science' Make John Edwards Rich? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Post a thread on it. You are using the classic Hannity tactic of red herrings to divert attention nt |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. So we'll all assume you can't refute it and it's true. Ok. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Post a thread on it and see what happens |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Why do you need a new thread? Let's keep all the slime in this thread. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Lame attempt to hijack the thread to protect the Great Leader nt |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
168. the answer is no, junk' science, when Edwards used it, was real science |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
170. obama's hospital? how does that work? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. Sure, but remember what BO fans said about HRC's tenure on Wal-Mart's board |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
143. Try staying on topic and refute with facts not diversionary tactics.. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Great rebuttal. |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. 'Nuff said.... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
76. Good question - this smear refers to a partial yr salary in 2005 "growing" to a full year salary as |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. She was working "part-time" since 2002 for $100,000 a year? nt |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. Sorry you posted as I was fetching the back-up to edit in - she was promoted mid year to VP so the |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. Ok. So two months after he became a senator with eyes on the White House she got a massive pay raise |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #97 |
118. Corporations do make decisions on promotions based on who you know - and I do not |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. And senators are influenced by $200,000 a year and $100k in contributions |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. I'll let you have the last word :-)-only noting that I hope folks give access¬ actual votes for$s |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. GREAT! Now we are gonna start posting with Right-Wing Websites as sources |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. People like facts...Are you allergic to facts? It would seem so.. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Oh, and I guess you also disrespect DU Rules as well! |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Look who is talking....the person who uses Craigslist as news sources. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Allergic to proof is your #1 problem... |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Seems like everyone else is agreeing with you on this 'news' story |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I have an entire folder on Obama.. |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. It's truly sad that a fellow DUer supports these right-wing trash websites. nm |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
135. Don't accuse other's of Ad Hominum arguments... |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #135 |
142. Neither of those links apply! asking Team Jordan to refute the allegation.. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
49. Did he/she/it really suggest that since the shirt was on ebay, his campaign's in trouble? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Now that is funny... |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I am not used any right-wing news sources, and I don't think anyone on DU should |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. And you made your feelings known.... |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. No response? I wonder why? nt |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
51. It's wrong to use them period. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
78. What I find fascinating... |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. The hypocrisy is even worse in some cases |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #78 |
93. I won't argue about the Obama supporters and the increase in angst. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. How about a deal? One new set of DU rules on criticism of candidates |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Why don't you just stop posting shit sources? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. No is disputing 2/3 of the OP so the source is obviously not a "shit source" nt |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
80. I agree - I went to the OP's source and the write up is indeed nonsense |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
96. Cool to see papau. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #96 |
123. Thank you - I am just not into bashing any Dem on non-policy issue and non |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #123 |
132. The problem is conflicts of interests affect policy nt |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #132 |
148. My first Pres-FDR-had "conflicts of interest"/traitor to his class-but his policy was excellent n/t |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #80 |
108. Kudos to you, paupau, for stepping up! |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #108 |
125. Thanks :-) |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Well, thank goodness Hillary supporters will defend her against.. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
42. So you aren't disputing the facts, which would come it if BO makes it to the GE? |
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Kingstree (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
8. Worry about your candidate. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. NO THANK YOU! |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
52. Defend your own. See post #46. I'll eagerly await your "evidence." |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
99. You're not answering the accusation, you're just bringing up an unrelated issue |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #99 |
115. They should no more respond to my charge than i should respond to theirs. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. It was reported in a "reputable" source that her income tripled after BO became a senator |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. "Leave the leaders of the pack alone"?! |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. The "shut up, don't ask questions" mentality of supporters of one candidate is disturbing |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
86. The parallels with extremist Dean and Clark supporters are striking |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Great post. They are very anti-Democratic nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
15. Next Time get your facts Straight. Like I said before worry about Edwards and his Hedge Funds |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Excellent article. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. They made $103,642,743 in profits in 2005 nt |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
138. Got that balance sheet handy? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #138 |
146. I believe the OP links to a video that shows relevant documents from the hospital |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #146 |
150. The OP links to tax return that shows (building?) reserve growing by that amount n/t |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #146 |
162. That's not "profit." |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Excellent article |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. U of Chicago: "It is was a mere coincidence her pay tripled when he became a major figure!" |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. No you try to post slime. I found facts to prove otherwise.. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. The fact is she got a $200,000 raise when it became clear BO was going to become a senator |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. No, she got a raise 2 months after he TOOK office |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
98. Ok. That makes it better |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. I didn't say anything one way or another |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #101 |
107. Ok. Thanks for the correction |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #69 |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. Extra $200,000 a year in income and $100,000 in contributions surely have no effect on a politician! |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #100 |
117. So what did U of C get in exchange for this? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
124. They gave $100,000 away in contributions for fun? nt |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #124 |
129. They gave to the husband of a co-worker |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. A husband who has great influence on the future of health policy in America nt |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #131 |
136. Yes, Senators have influence, |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. When Edwards worked for Fortress, they gave him $167,000 in campaign |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. John Edwards' Fuzzy Health Care Insurance Math |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. Obama's accused of being unethical and you rebut with Edwards' incompetence? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Because the haircut doesn't really matter. Things like this do. And this is not |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
159. So you're better than the rest of us |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. Isn't everyone else here slinging mud? I just wanted my turn. At least I don't |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
156. This is my work world - Edwards is correct and generous as to the 30% - the "Fool" is not |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #156 |
163. I'll take your word for it — and you should get in touch with Motley Fool. NT |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #163 |
171. I have told the Fool with references - they don't care - they sell you a newsletter and have a |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
18. Since right wing sources are suddenly acceptable |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Unfortunately not new...right wing news sources are used daily.. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. That is sadly true |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
56. WesDem, do you post attacks on Obama in the countless daily anti-HRC threads BO supporters post? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
106. Just trying to balance the scales a bit, dmc |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Can you provide some recent examples of right wing news sources? nm |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. When have you ever provided a linked news source? |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Here are some of the recent threads I started, let me know if any of them has a linked news source? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. 3 of the threads were attack threads, 1 was a negative HRC thread |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Please specify. At least my threads are backed by credible newpapers/new sources. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. Surely you jest nt |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
77. Absolutely. There's one thing to offer a legit critique of another candidate. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Define "legit critique" |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Look at your sources DMC. Why not just start putting links to Rush Limbaugh's website. nt |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #87 |
110. Define "legit critique" please nt |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. BULLSHIT. Show me where a site like this racist cesspool has been used to attack Hillary. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
72. Funny... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. Ok. You are right on those. Point taken. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. Look... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #89 |
104. Gotcha SaveElmer. I would tend to agree with what you say regarding Hillary bashing here on DU. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. Please define "honest critique" and "sleazy smear" |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. I does seem like you need some help understanding the difference. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #116 |
126. No surprise there |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #104 |
144. I don't enjoy posting negative stuff about other Democrats... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
24. Who knew that Matt Drudge was as a fan of Mario Cuomo? eom |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. good job helping the repukes spread misleading stories |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Which parts of the OP were lies? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
38. OMG. I can't believe i'm seeing a link to that filthy fucking site here on DU. |
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ProgressiveAmPatriot (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
58. no bones about linking to right wing papers and smear web cites |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
60. I was sent the link in a PM. Why? Apparently some fear the wrath of the BO thought police |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
39. Does anyone dispute that the hospital marks up their actual costs by 350 percent on the uninsured? |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. We do not have dispute anything we let the facts dispute it for us. Like the link below. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. That link is broken, Ethelk — here's one that works: |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Is draft_mario going to apologize now, I wonder? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. No, he'll just start another one. NT |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. What was in post 59? I have that individual on ignore so I didn't see it |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. The second or third posting of a link |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
85. See posts 35 and 69, which responded to the convenient statement by a biased party |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. So we can't accept statements by biased parties? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #95 |
105. Sure we can. We can accept Tony Snow's statements too |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #105 |
130. So now you're left clinging to 2/3 of your slimy hit piece, the part that hasn't yet been debunked? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #130 |
149. Nothing has ben debunked, unless you think Tony Snow-type official statements are 100% true nt |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
139. That blog is a reporter taking a statement from a hospital executive.. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #139 |
151. Exactly. It is naive to accept the word of an interested party with an agenda |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #151 |
157. Precisely.. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
111. I'm so lucky. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
140. Why should he. What makes you think this is over? nt |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. That link does not even work nt |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #64 |
122. Link does work |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #122 |
134. See post 128's response to that nt |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
83. Couple of things everyone needs to realize/remember here. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. Here is a good article on Obama's health care plan that BO supporters ignored |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #94 |
113. Here is information on Edwards Healthcare Plan |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #83 |
114. "No Obama supporter here has proven the OP false"? Here's the proof |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #114 |
141. This link doesn't disprove anything. And I already read that in the Trib articles. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #141 |
145. I guess it all depends on whether you believe the hospital or the right wing |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #145 |
154. As I said before (and am not saying again): I'm going by the Trib, not the OP. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #141 |
152. Exactly. No one ever publicly admits buying influence nt |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #83 |
120. This is incorrect. I have posted the link twice already. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #120 |
128. The link does not dispute 2 of the 3 charges and offers a convenient biased statement on the other |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #128 |
137. it proves the crap you posted was a lie. She received her promotion |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #137 |
153. The hospital is not ripping off the uninsured at a rate of 350%? |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #153 |
161. Her salary increase because of her job responsibilities changed |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #161 |
164. Yes, she was promoted after Obama became a senator nt |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #128 |
147. Hospitals raise prices. Obama's does not own hospital. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #147 |
166. They raise prices to gouge the uninsured? And BO is fine with living large with such money? |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
155. The Obama's had nothing to do with the issue where the hospital |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #155 |
165. Did the vice president of the hospital or the senator hubsand of a vp complain about this? |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
158. If Obamas wanted to earn big profits, wouldn't you suggest they invest in a Hedge Fund instead |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #158 |
167. I think they are doing fine making a million dollars a year, especially with the extra 200K nt |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #158 |
169. this is called a non-sequitur. slap Edwards to deflect answering. |
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