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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 03:42 PM Original message |
Poll question: "Under Absolutely No Circumstances Can the U.S. Allow Iran to Acquire Nuclear Weapons" |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Bear in mind that an affirmative answer is consistent... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
98. IAEA: No proof of secret Iran plan (September 2004) |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
100. No Proof Found of Iran Arms Program (August 2005) |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
101. IAEA blasts U.S. intelligence report on Iran (September 2006) |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. No country should have nuclear weapons, but that applies double for |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. If you are currently supporting a Democratic candidate for President |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
58. I would hope our candidates don't feel safe with the prospect of a nuclear Iran |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. And I hope no one feels overly smug about the prospect of a painless war with Iran |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. So far over a quarter of responders agree with current U.S. policy on this matter |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree. They don't seem especially trustworthy, frankly--I'd hate to |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. The significance of your concern and this question is a timeline |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. You are right--I've heard different estimates from different sources |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. As it now stands I think the odds favor it being a moot question |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Actually, since we've started "talking" with them at least a little bit |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
87. I think its a false dichotomy |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
71. Given that Israel has a bunch of it's own nuclear weapons, I don't see what |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. That's the danger--mutually assured destruction may work to deter |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. First off Ahmadinejad is not Iran's leader |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
90. Israel isn't going to get "nuked" |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
6. Disappointed with the lack of responses here... |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. By a very conservative count there are at least 16 front page threads |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. This thread would get more feedback if it mentioned Paris Hilton |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
8. Why? |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. Absolutely not. We need to look at the negatives and the positives of every possible outcome |
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Phredicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
14. Many countries have nuclear weapons but only one has actually used them; |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Sorry, ending WW2 is not something I think we as a nation need apologize for-- |
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Phredicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. But the fact remains, we've used them and no one else has. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. It's unfair that we have them, and then tell other countries not to get them-- |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
59. Agreed Weinerdoggie |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
91. Ah, that BIG LIE surfaces again |
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OldschoolDem (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. Nothing good can come from a nuclear Iran |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It doesn't matter what most experts think |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. This poll question is a much stronger position to take than keeping all options on the table |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
21. I agree. a nuclear Iran would give them added leverage and make them impervious |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. But that is simply an argument for why we would rather prevent that from happening. |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Our ally ISRAEL would have a counterweight, and the Gulf states will feel threatened |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. And if dialogue fails? |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #41 |
61. If dialogue fails, we nuke 'em. Nuke the shit out of 'em. Nuke 'em and eat their children. |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Sadly I think that is among their plans! |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. If dialogue fails, then we collaborate with our allies to do something about it |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. But you don't have to approach the table saying that |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Speak softly and carry a big stick |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. A big stick has a role, certainly, so does a juicy carrot |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I agree with you n/t |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Not literally "impervious." |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. Nice translation! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
93. You've got that right! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
92. They already are "impervious" |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
22. I think this topic represents a second inconvenient truth |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. This sure is interesting... |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. (meekly raises hand) |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. You put your finger on a sore point for me |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. You ever see that episode of MASH where Henry put Hawkeye in charge of the camp? |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Part of doing our part dilligently is not having too much faith that things will work out in the end |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Self delete (posted in wrong place) n/t |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. If Iran were to acquire nukes, which is not, it shouldn't concern us! |
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some guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
47. I don't know |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I am pretty confident about Kucinich, though he may not absolutely rule out |
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some guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. yes |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
89. But that's exactly the position Kucinich is taking. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
95. That would be the ULTIMATE international failure |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
60. I don't know about them, but I answered yes |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
88. Yes, I know |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
24. I don't think Iran should have the bomb. But if they get one, it's not worth war. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I agree with a lot of what you say here |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. We got out of the Cuban Missile Crisis because Kennedy played chicken |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Yes, but it can also be a very dangerous tool |
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Monk06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
26. Other disagree because the US has 10,000 thermonuclear warheads and |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
33. This is really up to more countries than just |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
35. I voted "Other" Tom, as N. Korea concerns me also.... |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Under some circumstances, I might also |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
40. And no one claims to know how any of our candidates would answer this poll |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
42. The current US Policy is also to not not have diplomatic talks with Iran... |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Do you worry at all about making it to January 2009 without a new war? |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
49. So far a third of responders here at Democratic Underground |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
96. Not any more it appears |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
51. Hillary Clinton.... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
52. Barack Obama.... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. More Obama... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
54. John Edwards... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
55. Glenn Greenwald "A new excerpt from the book's Iran chapter -- |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
56. If not US, then perhaps Israel can take care of it like they did last time |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
97. Oh, Great! |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
57. Wes Clark |
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ArkySue (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
63. K & R |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
64. 12-10-06: India and Israel: Nuclear Non-Proliferation myopia and U.S. Foreign Policy. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Very much related. Thank you. Very interesting also... |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
65. It's clear to me why most of our candidates spend little time discussing Iran |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
67. I'd raise your ... |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Actually your reply is muddy to me also but |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
69. Disagree. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
72. The U.S. really doesn't have any choice. |
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SergeyDovlatov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
73. Strongly disagree |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Some must think Iran poses a greater threat with a handfull of nukes |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #74 |
99. How about Iran has a legitimate fear |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
82. If they can slip their premises by you, they've got you. Bogus question... |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
83. Does anyone else find it interesting that DU's self described Independents |
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Socal31 (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
84. Isreal needs to handle this, not us. |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
85. If Iran was truly shit hot to get it's hands on Nukes |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
86. "I disagree and I am a Democrat" |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
94. OK, Here's what my candidate thinks about this subject |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
102. UN Calls US Data on Iran's Nuclear Aims Unreliable (February 2007) |
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