Clinton Surpasses Obama in Site Traffic Race

[wyldwolf]

Hillary Clinton overtook Barack Obama in May, John Edwards and Rudy Giuliani held steady and Ron Paul rocketed from fifth place to first. That's according to Hitwise data showing the ebb and flow of traffic to the official sites of the Democratic and Republican presidential primary candidates.

In a custom report created for ClickZ News, Hitwise measured traffic market share of the candidate sites. The measurement firm found traffic to Democratic candidate sites was top heavy, favoring Clinton's, Obama's and Edwards's sites. HillaryClinton.com garnered nearly a third of visits among Democratic candidate sites in May. BarackObama.com attracted almost 28 percent, and JohnEdwards.com drew 23 percent of visitors to Dem campaign sites last month.

http://www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3626275

[zulchzulu]

1. Anything on how long they were on the site, entry and exit info...

I do web site analysis and didn't see anything about how long the users were online. Sure, you can click on a web site...but where do you go, what do you download/watch, are there any matrix info on forms...

Porn sites get a lot of hits too. So do stories about outsourcing...

:rofl:

[SaveElmer]

2. And campaign contributions from indicted mentors...

:rofl:

[zulchzulu]

6. ..or campaign contributions from Mr. Murdoch...

:rofl:

[SaveElmer]

12. Be careful about who you mock for Murdoch contributions...

You may find some people on that list you don't like to talk about too much *cough* Howard Dean...*cough* Barbara Boxer...*cough* Ted Kennedy!!!

All Party sell-outs...right?

[TeamJordan23]

9. or campaign donations from lobbyists and the most from healthcare industry of any Dem. nt

[SaveElmer]

13. ...

Wonder how many other indicted developers Obama helped get business for while in the state legislature....

[Kingstree]

20. I love Media Matters - IT allows people to do research

On Tuesday, Bill Burton, press secretary for Obama's presidential campaign, said the letters Obama wrote in support of the development weren't intended as a favor to Rezko or Davis.

"This wasn't done as a favor for anyone," Burton said in a written statement. "It was done in the interests of the people in the community who have benefited from the project.

"I don't know that anyone specifically asked him to write this letter nine years ago," the statement said. "There was a consensus in the community about the positive impact the project would make and Obama supported it because it was going to help people in his district. ... They had a wellness clinic and adult day-care services, as well as a series of social services for residents. It's a successful project. It's meant a lot to the community, and he's proud to have supported it.''

The development, called the Cottage View Terrace apartments, opened five years ago at 4801 S. Cottage Grove, providing 97 apartments for low-income senior citizens.

Asked about the Obama letters, Rezko's attorney, Joseph Duffy, said Tuesday, "Mr. Rezko never spoke with, nor sought a letter from, Senator Obama in connection with that project."

Years earlier, as a state legislator, Mr. Obama wrote letters to city and state officials supporting efforts by Mr. Rezko and a partner to build apartments for the elderly with $14 million in government money, The Chicago Sun-Times reported in its June 13 editions. The developers received $855,000 in fees.]

Mr. Obama's spokesman, Bill Burton, said the senator was one of several politicians who intervened because the project was important to local residents.

Mr. Burton also said in a statement that the senator "has held himself to a high standard and has had a career in public service fighting for the toughest possible ethical rules."

"This is not a record changed by anything that has happened to Tony Rezko," Mr. Burton said.



There you go and Tell Senior Citizens he was wrong for making that decision. They should not have places to live.

[rinsd]

17. Yeah because Obama has taken in ONLY $1.8M from the Healthcare industry

I believe Open Secrets is the same source Moore used for his most in healthcare quote.

For Prez 1st Q - http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008

$357,417.00 health professionals
$88,598.00 insurance
$51,950.00 pharma

$497,965.00

During his 2004 run

http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.asp?ID=ILS2&Cycle=2004

$332,013.00 health professionals
$169,232.00 insurance
$118,550.00 hospitals/retirement homes

$619,795.00


Oh and apparently in 2006 he raised this though I am unsure if OpenSecrets rolls those over to his Prez totals (doesn't seem that way though)

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/indus.asp?CID=N00009638&cycle=2006

$363,713.00 health professionals
$183,132.00 insurance
$146,175.00 hospitals/retirement homes

$693,020.00

[hedgehog]

43. What's the big deal about Obama getting money from nurses, doctors, nurse's aids, etc. ?

What are the comparative numbers for your candidate?

[rinsd]

3. Its all about Celine!

[ClassWarfare2008]

44. That's reason enough for her NOT to get the nomination right there.

As if there weren't dozens of other reasons.

Celine induces vomiting, AND she's Canadian.

Nothing against Canadians*, but the campaign song for a Presidential candidate should be written and sung by an American. Preferably one who does not suck.




*(except Celine Dion, Anne Murray, Bryan Adams, and Stephen Harper)

[TeamJordan23]

4. Obama greatly outnumbers Hillary and others on Facebook and Myspace.

check each of their homepages to direct links to their myspace and facebook pages.

[wyldwolf]

5. which means very few click over to his actual homepage

[TeamJordan23]

8. Yes, but they are filled with lots of other stuff (future events, recent news, etc..) nt

[wyldwolf]

10. so are the actual homepages... where the adults get their info.

[TeamJordan23]

11. I know. I'm not disputing what you said. I am just pointing out there are other ways to get info

about a particular candidate.

[Freddie Stubbs]

7. Yet most high school kids aren't old enough to vote

[mckeown1128]

14. Well I guess Obama and Edwards should just quit....

Now that Hillary has won the internet geek primary... :sarcasm:

[beachmom]

15. Somehow it's not translating into REAL netroots support. It seems

that Edwards wins that one hands down with Obama placing a decent 2nd place. Hillary does not have widespread netroots support. Why hasn't she even courted it? Is she going to show a spine and attend YearlyKos? So far, she has not indicated she will. Perhaps the Hillary fans on DU can communicate to the campaign that the netroots matters and she will need us in order to win, if she's so damned "inevitable" for the nomination.

Pathetic results for Sen. Clinton on the #1 liberal blog as of 2 PM:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/27/12851/5959

Who is currently your favorite 2008 candidate?

Chris Dodd
1% 120 votes
Joe Biden
0% 61 votes
Mike Gravel
1% 134 votes
Dennis Kucinich
3% 255 votes
Hillary Clinton
6% 473 votes
Bill Richardson
4% 336 votes
Barack Obama
21% 1561 votes
John Edwards
42% 3044 votes
No Freakin' Clue
7% 579 votes
Other
9% 681 votes

[wyldwolf]

18. um... so? REAL "netroots" support is a small little patch of the internet.

[beachmom]

21. Please point to me a community site (a liberal one) where Hillary

supporters dominate the way Edwards does on Kos, MYDD, and hell, even Raising Kaine. There's also the fact that our elected officials have annointed DailyKos The One, and post diaries there -- Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Russ Feingold, John Kerry, and so on.

I'm not saying Hillary should be #1 on Kos. But why is her support so low there? Maybe it has to do with the fact that the netroots perceive her not being with them. And that's even after we defended her husband so completely when he was attacked in Path to 9/11. This represents a lost opportunity. The Clintons have gambled that they can win without the netroots. Fine, maybe it'll work. But they shouldn't come crying to us when the big bad GOP is mean to them, when they have done everything in their power to ignore, belittle, and diminish the netroots, figuring they can create astroturf netroots on the hillaryclinton.com site. The Clintons left an opening on Kos which Edwards gladly took and Obama has garnered enough support there to get diaries on the Recommended List. This is not 2004; the netroots are far more important and have grown substantially since then.

[wyldwolf]

22. my point exactly. Hillary supporters don't dominate any "progressive" sites.. YET she...

...is kicking some Obama and Edwards ass in national and state polls. The netroots have little real influence in national races.

[beachmom]

25. Wrong. This is not a national race. It is 50 individual races.

Have you forgotten the Virginia senate race? Or Montana? The netroots made the difference. And haven't we been over the fact that early national polls mean absolutely nothing?

It seems that your team's strategy is to bash Obama every chance you get while putting up infinite "She's inevitable" posts and then citing the latest poll. This is not how to get votes or support in the netroots. It amounts to a brash, nasty campaign.

Where you will suffer is in the General, if she gets that far, and you expect the netroots to do the Clintons' bidding. Sorry, but I think there are senatorial and congressional races which deserve more blood, sweat, toil, and tears than a Clinton candidacy whose internet outreach is shallow and often insulting to our intelligence.

[wyldwolf]

26. ok, then, what I said, just insert "50 individual races."

:shrug:

For all the netroot's supposed power, Edwards has tanked and Obama is sinking.

t seems that your team's strategy is to bash Obama every chance you get while putting up infinite "She's inevitable" posts and then citing the latest poll.

So our little machine that could is steamrolling the ballyhooed netroots. :)

[Name removed]

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[wyldwolf]

29. jeez! When did you veer off into "just DU?" First it was "netroots.."

..and then "kos and mydd."

But anyway, I'll revise my statement AGAIN based on your constant revision of the topic of our conversation:

the five loudmouths on DU are rattling the cages of the anti-Clinton DUers on a regular basis. Despite low support in the netroots as a whole, Clinton leads, often by double digits, in national polls and state polls.

The netroots have had no meaningful effect on the Democratic primary race. I would venture to say that if Clinton wins the nomination, the netroots will lose what little credit they are given for being influential.

[beachmom]

31. With what media? What media is going to support Clinton, once the

right wing noise machine kicks in? The netroots on the Left is the equivalent to talk radio on the Right, a powerful weapon that will be needed by the Dem nominee. And have you forgotten the other branch of government -- the CONGRESS -- which I assure you is very grateful for the netroots, and, you know, has to actually pass the laws the president may want.

What's weird is that your support of Clinton causes you to want to celebrate the demise of the netroots. Wow, what are you DOING here if that is so? So is that the Clinton slogan from now on? Join us or be marginalized. It seems you don't give a s*** about the real movement the netroots respresents. And that is oh so sad.

[wyldwolf]

32. do you think any media will give a Democrat a pass?

No, but the line your spreading has quickly become netroots folklore. And, like most in the netroots, you taking a small statement of mine and creating a conspiratorial outcome. :eyes:

[beachmom]

33. Of course, they won't, Wolf. That's why the Dem NEEDS the netroots.

We're the equivalent to talk radio that the Right has. That's what was pivotal in the Virginia Senate race, where Webb could say nothing about Macaca while the netroots pounded it every day. You're saying the Clintons do not need the netroots, and will become marginalized when Clinton wins. I disagree. And I am spreading nothing to no one. We're having a conversation here.

What I have learned from this conversation is that the Clinton campaign has no plan to court netroots support. Instead, the plan is to play our influence down and then to marginalize it. I'm glad that's clear now.

Oh, and I hope Hillary changes her mind on this, because this amounts to a major mistake.

[wyldwolf]

34. but only if they're on the Dem's side.

The constant sniping of Democrats from the netroots make me happy independents, former Republicans, and Reagan Democrats are headed our way.

[lojasmo]

16. Um...Who cares? EOM

Waiting for Q2 fundraising results.

[wyldwolf]

19. Um... Who care? EOM

[lojasmo]

28. fanboi site traffic? No sensible person should care. EOM

[wyldwolf]

30. ...then why waste your energy in this thread? "The fanbois" are at myspace and facebook...

..where Obama leads in traffic.

[lojasmo]

35. Why waste your energy on this topic? Good question....

Why the hell not. I always enjoy poking fanbois in the ribs.

[wyldwolf]

36. aren't you on the wrong site, then?

Seems your usually haunt is the ultimate fanboi hangout.

[ShortnFiery]

23. Wait a minute, I have to catch my breath.

:rofl:

:P Come time for voting in The Primary, all these glorious polls won't mean BUNK! ;)

[michaelwb]

24. Meaningless

What about important stuff like:

Who had the better date for the prom?

Who gets the most cards at Christmas?



Of course, I will only vote for candidates who promise to deal with the Ninja menace threating our country.

[ripple]

37. I'll bet it was largely due to her American Idol-style

campaign song solicitation.

All of that for Celine Dion. :rofl:

[hedgehog]

38. Nearly a third is less than or equal to 30%. Comparing 30% to 28%

to 23% and somehow this entire thread seems rather trivial.

[Name removed]

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[wyldwolf]

40. "Unelectable Hillary Lesbian Rodenhurst-Rodham-Clinton." Says all I need to know about you.

Your website is some of the dumbest shit I've seen in a while.

[rinsd]

41. Hopefully will be TS'ed shortly.

[wyldwolf]

42. "Stew Webb and Tom Heneghan Federal Whistleblowers and National Security Experts"

:rofl:

[rinsd]

45. It makes me long for the sober analysis of Wayne Madsen.

:hi:

[ClassWarfare2008]

46. No shit.

I completely agree that she's unelectable, but what the Hell is the rest of that supposed to mean? :wtf:

"The Guillotine will make a come back in the 21st Century.

Remember once the Head is cut it will talk for another 10-40 seconds.

So make sure that when you order your Guillotine order a roll of Duck Tape. "

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: