Candidates' position on outsoucing and federal contracts?

[Eric J in MN]

The only way to stop companies like IBM from outsourcing thousands of computer programming jobs to China and India is to tell IBM that it will be ineligible for federal contracts if it goes ahead with this plan.

Are there any candidates for President who agree with me on this?

Have any candidates linked the issues of outsourcing and federal contracts?

[Paulie]

1. Kucinich

Takes it further: http://www.kucinich.us/issues/corporations.php

Corporations:

We need a new relationship between corporations and our society. Just as our founders understood the need for separation of church and state, we need to institutionalize the separation of corporations and the state.

This begins with government taking the responsibility to establish the conditions under which corporations may do business in the United States, including the establishment of a federal corporate charter which describes corporate rights and responsibilities.


Solution:

Corporations should be compelled to pay a fair share of taxes. If corporations shift profits offshore to avoid paying taxes, they should not be permitted to operate in the United States. The decrease in corporate tax responsibility is an indication of the rise of corporate power. According to the Institute for Policy Studies, after the 2002 tax cuts, corporations will pay in taxes an amount equivalent to 1.3% of the U.S. Gross Domestic Product. In the 1950s they paid taxes of 4.5% of the U.S. GDP. Corporations have fewer regulations, pay fewer taxes and yet have greater influence.

[Eric J in MN]

3. While I agree with the principles Kucinich outlined, I still

While I agree with the principles Kucinich outlined, I would still like for one of the candidates to say specifically that outsourcing should be a negative factor in granting federal contracts.

[Paulie]

4. I've heard him say

That if you move your company out of the country for Tax purposes, then you get NO federal contracts.

I'm heading out the door, so someone else will hook up a link.

[mikehiggins]

2. Check with the world trade organisation.

They decide what we can or can't do anymore.

Maybe it'll be illegal to stop outsourcing jobs? Who knows?

One thing you know for sure: BushCo will fold rather than take a chance on economic countermeasures aimed at the states the GOP needs to get back into office.

[OrAnarch]

5. Clark

Let India have the tech jobs.

We have more advance things to do like rock carving, hunting and gathering.

(Paraphrased from the viewpoint of an unhired CompSci graduate)

[Justice]

6. Clark's Position Corrected

Clark's plan is to put in place tax incentives to keep jobs in the US
and to pull out of the tax code incentives to move jobs out of the US.

Also, Clark would put in place fair trade agreements, to level the playing field, so that the comparable worker protections, environmental protections etc would exist in other countries.

At the same time, Clark realizes how hard it will be to pull jobs back from other countries. So he also wants to focus on developing new technologies in the US, and keep the jobs for those technologies in the US.

Viewpoint of someone who has listened to Clark and read his position papers.

[OrAnarch]

7. Guess you never heard him actually verbally state

That we should let India have the programming jobs, as if we are too good for such "obselete" tech jobs.



Screw tax incentives for keeping jobs here (I am sick of giving out money for what should be mandatory). Best way to do it is to incur tax penalties when they ship em. For everything they save from the going rate per job shipped overseas, tax em that rate as to take away completely any outsourcing incentive, and use most of the funds toward job devlopemnt here and a bit of em towards improving conditions there and raising their standard of living (as to have em not provide cheap labor in future). If only I was the hard ass president. :)

To give coorporations breaks for not being assholes, as to balance out the field with those who are assholes, really doesn't prevent those who break such rules from doing such in a capitalistic society, as long as they can profit more for breaking them than recievig the breaks. This incentive bullshit needs to be stripped from economic policy, and instead, it needs to be replaced with penalties for the companies that practice in their intrests, and hurt others doing so. Our curent practice is like giving a thousand bucks to those who do not murder, and leaving the ones who do alone, as to think such activity will eliminate itself if everyone can't make 1000 bucks off murdering others capitalistically. Utter bullshit. We do not practice such domestically so why is it in our economic policies?

[Paulie]

8. Here is where I heard it from Kucinich

It's in the transcript of this interview: http://www.linktv.org/programming/programDescription.php4?code=election_kucinich

Executive Order no longer allowing those companies that move their HQ to avoid taxes from getting Federal contracts.

[Myra]

9. Well, that's just one of the great things about Kucinich.

We don't have to debate what his policy might be based
on out of context quotes and distortions. He clearly states
policies on his website, as well as in interviews.

Thanks for the post Paulie. This is a hugely important subject.

[Paulie]

10. No credit to me

Someone else would have posted the same thing. :) As you said, Dennis makes it clear on his site, easy to find.

Hopefully the original poster will give Dennis a serious look. He's really the best choice, the clear distinction from Bush. No pink tutu in Dennis' closet! :loveya:

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