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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:02 PM Original message |
The Associated Pimps are SO anti-Dean that it's not even funny. |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. wow |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Dean is now polling SECOND in Wisconsin. Why not wait for the results |
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Two months ago he was in first: |
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Last Thursday, he was in second: |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. You know as well as I do that you can't compare these polls. |
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. When you say "he's now second" there's an implicit comparison. |
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Nicholas_J
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
84. The only poll in which Dean places second is Zogby |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Two months and a harshly negative press, a kamikaze Gephardt and a |
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Tue Feb-17-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
111. Where's the evidence of harsh negativity prior to 11pm on Jan 19? |
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stickdog
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Tue Feb-17-04 12:48 AM Response to Reply #111 |
115. On page 11. (nt) |
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #115 |
120. Wrong. p11: Dean's coverage still more pos than neg prior to Jan 19. |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. OK.. |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Once again, why are you and the AP so eager to write his obituary in |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. If you expect |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. If one can't see the bias literally DRIPPING from the article, it's simply |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. and I can just as easily say |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. The problem is the reporter isn't IMPLYING anything. He's clearly |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. and I think |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Where's the "Edwards can't win" article? Where's the Kucinich & |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. None Of These Figures, Mr. Dog |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. How long will the "Dean has no chance" meme pass for cutting edge, |
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janx
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Mon Feb-16-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
95. Tabloid journalism is cheap. A lot of it (judging from your example) |
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Zinnola
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. As a Dean supporter |
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lancdem
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. Looks pretty accurate to me |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. And Kerry was dead in the water in early January. (nt) |
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's hard to blow sunshine up asses with Dean campaign. |
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lancdem
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I forgot about that |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I Remember That, They Were Saying It Was the Final Nail in Kerry's Coffin |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Dean didn't "dump" or "oust" his campaign manager. He tried to |
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. He dumped Grossman. |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Grossman started working for Kerry two days ago. |
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. And it seems that you expect the media to cover this as good news |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I expect them to cover it IN CONTEXT like they cover EVERY OTHER |
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Do you remember how negative the coverage was of Kerry's |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. But I thought they always dumped on the front-runner. |
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Define 'they'? Media or other candidates? Media always tries to get Repubs |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. You are avoiding the point. You used to say, "the media always dumps |
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
96. When did I say "the media always dumps on frontrunner"? I've always said |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. An Accurate Report, Mr. Dog, Nothing More And Nothing Less |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. He won't last the week? |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. What An Imagination You Have, Sir! |
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madfloridian
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. You are most likely right, Sir. |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. well |
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madfloridian
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. No, I believe Kerry is the nominee. |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. The Only Real Question Is This, Ma'am |
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madfloridian
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. Sir, I believe that you gave it a name. |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:48 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. And Stand By It, Ma'am |
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madfloridian
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. That is your right to believe as you wish. Sir. |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #86 |
100. Recent Statements By Gov. Dean, Ma'am |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
63. If Dean is going to receive a trouncing tomorrow, why don't you and the AP |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Rats Leave Sinking Ships, Sir |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. True, but even rats don't poke giant holes in the ships they abandon. |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Grossman Is a Disloyal Shit |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:44 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Rats Will Gnaw Through Steel To Daylight As The Water Closes In, Sir |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:48 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Come on. He's obviously been drawing two salaries for |
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damnraddem
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm afraid it doesn't much matter now. |
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I have yet to see evidence that the media took Dean down. |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. What do you mean EVEN THAT STUDY? |
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. That study shows he was getting pos cov'g prior to caucus, |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. That Is Unkind, My Friend |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. Bullshit |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. hrmm... |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
77. Pure sophistry. Dean was getting hammered with negative coverage |
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Mon Feb-16-04 11:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
107. You have any proof? |
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stickdog
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Tue Feb-17-04 12:54 AM Response to Reply #107 |
116. Yes. Every study shows the same thing. |
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. It was still postive. You're complaining that he wasn't getting enough |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
80. Just look at the report at tell me which candidates even ARGUABLY |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. You're operating on the assumption |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Wrong. I'm presenting indisputable facts from which I'm drawing |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. You have not done any such thing |
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. The report itself says that numbers for the 4 week period were .... |
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w4rma
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Mon Feb-16-04 11:59 PM Response to Reply #97 |
109. Calling for the break up of media oligopolies will turn the oligopolies |
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Tue Feb-17-04 12:04 AM Response to Reply #109 |
112. They never thought he was going to win. That's why they were promoting him |
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jansu
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. The Center for Public Intergrity |
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Mon Feb-16-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
108. The coverage he got propelled him to the top of the field and made him 40m |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. What do you mean "EVEN THAT STUDY"? |
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BruinAlum
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's accurate |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. My EXPECTATIONS are that the media should let the fucking voters of |
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. If they had, Dean never would have been in the lead. |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. A Good Point, Sir |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
82. Dean was never in the lead vs. the DLC. |
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
98. I didn't know they were polling Dean vs DLC. Dean was ahead in every other |
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NewYorkerfromMass
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
10. I just read that his WI campaign manager is 24 Years old. |
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Justitia
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm backing you up on this one. |
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. Some of it might be objective, like the empty chairs, |
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eileen_d
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
14. I agree that this is a hack job |
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mzmolly
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
30. As Dean said, news has become entertainment. It's ALL tabloid these days. |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. what makes the story quoted |
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mzmolly
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. Salacious...yes. |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. not really |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. It's Also a Story ARC That Is Important |
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mzmolly
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Again, you cant choose which part of our Democracy you like best. |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. I'm not sure what you mean... |
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stickdog
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:11 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. No. But the relationship is complex and fraught with positive feedback. |
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Mon Feb-16-04 06:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. But it's a playing field they're all playing on. |
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mzmolly
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. The media is making a Bush win more likely... |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. a new poll |
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mzmolly
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. A *new* poll after the media take down... |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:07 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. the "media takedown" |
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
99. Which is why they propped up Dean until he proved that with |
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BuelahWitch
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Tue Feb-17-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #99 |
119. What station were you watching? |
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. NPR loved Dean up to an including the Iowa caucuses. |
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Tue Feb-17-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #57 |
113. the media and the DLC has spoken |
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #113 |
122. Yeah. DLC'er Al Gore endorsed Dean. DLC'er Bradley endorsed Dean. |
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jansu
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
46. Why are they so anti Dean? |
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Mon Feb-16-04 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
76. Welcome to the club of non-frontrunner pariahs... |
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
78. I don't see anything anti-Dean in this article. |
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arwalden
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
79. What Would YOU Have Written Instead? Let's See Your Version... |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. Ooh Ooh! Let Me Try! |
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arwalden
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:24 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. It's Better If You Imagine Any Female Character From "Clueless" Reading It |
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DoveTurnedHawk
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:26 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. And That One Time? At Band Camp? |
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Dookus
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Mon Feb-16-04 08:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. Heheh... |
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John_H
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #79 |
101. Here's how that fucking article should have read if AP were fair!!! |
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The Magistrate
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. That Sounds About Right, Sir |
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. OMG |
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Mon Feb-16-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. Very funny. |
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Tue Feb-17-04 05:28 AM Response to Reply #101 |
117. Dizzying. Truly Dizzying. |
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
104. once again |
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MidwestMomma
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Mon Feb-16-04 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
105. Sorry Dean supporters |
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Tue Feb-17-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #105 |
118. Okay. So.... |
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janx
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Tue Feb-17-04 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
110. Good night sweetie! And thanks for asking. |
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Tue Feb-17-04 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
114. Just want to say.... |
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