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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:49 PM
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TPM poster: No vote was scheduled for Kyl-Lieberman until today's announcement at 12:30PM.
Very interesting...


Hatch wrote on September 26, 2007 3:07 PM:

Obama is in New Hampshire trying to become our next President. Majority Leader Reid said last night that there would be no vote on this amendment in the near future, so Senator Obama had no reason to expect that this vote would be happening today. The announcement that the amendment would come up for a vote today didn't happen until 12:30pm. What was Senator Obama supposed to do, hop on a private jet and fly straight back to the Capitol? It's not like his vote would've changed the outcome.


http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/09/majority_of_senate_dems_vote_for_liebermankyl_amendment.php#more



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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:51 PM
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1. Can this be verified?
:kick:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:34 PM
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15. I assume this "Hatch" person was watching C-Span2 last night.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:52 PM
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2. so Reid backtracked?
Or what?
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:52 PM
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3. Why would Reid misslead the senate?... seems fishy.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:53 PM
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4. Hillary knew to be there. So did Dodd.
try again.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:59 PM
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7. Yes, they certainly did. Not like that "upstart" Barack Obama.
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Steve_in_California Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:02 PM
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11. Biden, Hillary and Dodd knew to be there.
And 95 other Senators as well.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:56 PM
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5. Umm they've been talking about this amendment for days now, so this doesn't wash
Here's Reid yesterday at a press conference

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/reid-lieberman-kyl-amendment-being-revised/

REID: There are efforts being made before we vote on them to modify those two amendments, because people have issues with both of those amendments. So, until we finalize what they really want to do, I think it would be unwise for me to say that I support Kyl-Lieberman, or don’t support it. I think I have to wait until I see what they are finally going to come up with, because some people have some real substantive problems with what’s in that Kyl-Lieberman amendment.

And I think it is a huge mistake for Obama's campaign to claim he did not know what was on the Senate agenda and that his campaign for President is more important than doing the job the people of Illinois elected him to do. .

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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:56 PM
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6. Some people here posted that he was in the Senate today.
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 02:57 PM by Connie_Corleone
I went by that information when I posted my disappointment in him not voting.

Someone else said Obama was at a rally in New Hampshire around 11am today.

I still wish he was in the senate since the votes were going to happen this week at some point.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:05 PM
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12. No, he wasn't. Obama was in Peterborough, N.H. Photos below.



Presidential hopeful U.S. Sen Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks during a campaign stop, Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2007, in Peterborough, N.H. (AP Photo/Jim Cole)
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:30 PM
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13. I said that in my post.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:31 PM
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14. Sorry, just read your subject line.
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Steve_in_California Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:00 PM
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8. Obama was there, he just didn't vote.
Maybe he lost track of which way the wind was blowing.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:35 PM
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16. Where's your source for that? Mine says he was in NH
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:01 PM
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9. If that is the case, we can't expect him to have foreseen this. Also, why did Reid allow it to come...
It is kind of ringing a distant bell somewhere in my brain, that he (Reid) originally said he wouldn't let this come to a vote...why then would he let it come to one?

If Obama had no idea it was coming, I don't think we can fault him for that.

I never like the argument that casting a vote wouldn't have changed an outcome, that doesn't justify skipping an important vote.
A vote on the record is how we review them, and it's their job.

I'll wait to hear more from both Obama and Reid before I make any judgments.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:02 PM
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10. That's a very good question.
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