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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:02 AM Original message |
Edwards: I can win across the country; "If Hillary comes to Missouri, we can write it off." |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. Speaking strictly to Edwards' appeal nationwide, it would be very |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. He couldn't even deliver his own state last time - where's this "national appeal"? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. Kerry decided not to campaign in NC: National Dems were barely here before they were gone again |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. As the election got closer |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. It was a statistical deadheat a few months earlier, thanks to adding Edwards to the ticket ... so |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. Did Kerry stop Edwards from speaking there? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Do you remember 2004 ? In presidential races, voters attend most to the top of the ticket. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. Please don't post facts |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. Reason, N.C Jese Helms strong hold |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. SOme of the comments on that article...Oy. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
3. It seems from this it's debatable that's the actual case |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
4. He's in full denial mode, isn't he? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
5. Tactic has been tried before... |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. He's been running for president for years. He sure hasn't learned much |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. The Republicans opened up Bill Clinton like a soft peanut in 1994, instead. (nt) |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Uh...no they didn't... |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
53. Bill Clinton won in 1992 only because Ross Perot took Republican votes from Daddy Bush. n/t |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. That's not true. Condorcet analysis showed that Clinton would have won with or without Perot. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. why do people on the left keep pushing this RW myth? |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. Why would Edwards wast money in a Jesse Helm's strong hold |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
7. This is really a dumb strategy for Edwards to use... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Excellent points |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
54. Edwards is pointing out it is Hillary's supporters and the media who claim her as "electable" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
10. Johnson is spot on with her analysis in our state |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
11. State Rep Connie Johnson said that about Hillary, but I'm sure John agrees as I do! |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
12. What a farce |
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liskddksil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. left the senate |
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Rhythm and Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. The fact that he was about as popular as athlete's foot back home |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. You're a Chicago expert on views down here in NC, eh? |
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Rhythm and Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Here in Chicago, we have things called "newspapers," |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. 63% in NC held favorable opinion of Edwards in July 04 USAToday/CNN/Gallup poll |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. "A Mason-Dixon poll of 625 North Carolina voters May 14-17 found Bush and Kerry would be in a ... |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 03:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
55. It'd be nice |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. They can't support it because it's just a babble-point from the wingnut blogosphere |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Well he wasn't able to deliver NC for Erskine Bowles either. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Bowles' loss reflects the unpopularity of the Clinton White House with NC independents |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. No Democrat Has Carried The Tar Heal State Since Jimmy Carter |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Dems won almost every statewide office here last year, control General Assembly, hold Governorship |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. But Edwards did endorse Bowles, and if the fact is that the relatively remote |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I think you really know nothing about the 2004 NC senate primary |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
63. Bowles lost because N.C. is a narrow minded Helms strong hold |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. Though Dole fills Helms former seat, Democrats have often occupied the other seat |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 03:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
56. Kerry lost in 2004 because he was a lackluster candidate with a losing campaign strategy. |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. AdHocSolver ... You Got the Answer,...right on! |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
13. Sounds like Missouri has a lot of work to do. |
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Rhythm and Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
15. dupe delete |
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Rhythm and Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
16. That's not what polls are showing. |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I noticed that, and posted in the thread. It would seem to counter the article in my OP. nt |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
18. LOL@John Edwards |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Thanks for the stats. |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Polls mean nothing this early on. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. And predicting his electability |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I Agree. |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Polls do mean something this early. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. John Edwards Is Playing With Fire |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Of course that's what he's doing nt |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. What a sleazy way to make a sleazy accusation. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I Made An Observation Not A Judgement |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Sorry: repeating guttersnipe accusations doesn't count as "making an observation" |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. If You |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I don't care who first posted that sleazy pseudo-quote or where: the dishonest stinks |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
65. Can't believe you said that |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
51. Something to point out with those though |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
52. About 10% of those being polled probably think Bill Clinton is on the ballot nt |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. That is what I have been thinking |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
36. Negative coat tails are certainly one of the fears Democrats should judge with a Clinton nomination |
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MODemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Just how many lives did the Clinton/Monica disaster take? |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
37. des-par-ate |
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liskddksil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:36 PM Original message |
The way I see it, we've only just begun |
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liskddksil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. The way I see it, we've only just begun |
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V4Edwards (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
58. Quote incorrectly attributed to Edwards |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Thank you! |
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V4Edwards (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Thank you for welcoming me,, struggle4progress |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
59. Going to happen all across the south |
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