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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:13 PM
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Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, and Maureen Dowd. Why do Irish Catholics hate Hillary Clinton?
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 03:14 PM by MookieWilson
It's kind of weird. I just don't react to her all that strongly positively or negatively, but these folks sure do.

Edited to add Michael Kelly.

Check out MediaMatters.org's latest column on how Russert treated HRC.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:14 PM
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1. I've never noticed Irish Catholics hating HRC any more than any other population group
:shrug:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:18 PM
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5. In the media they're pretty rough with her.
No, most certainly most don't hate her. But in the media they sure seem to.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:23 PM
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13. Forgot Bill O'Reilly! nt
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:55 PM
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40. Add Noron O'Donnell
and half of my family
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:52 PM
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22. Irish have always been political and up on the news. Its in the blood.
I suppose people can have their opinions and not have to explain to anyone why they feel the way they do without being haters. I believe
having an opinion and expressing it is American. And if the opinion
expressed doesn't agree with someone else, it isn't automatically
the work of the devil or worse.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:16 PM
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2. ALL Irish Catholics?
Joe Biden hasn't attacked Senator Clinton (even though her 'pile-on' video implied he did), and he's Irish Catholic.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:17 PM
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3. Chris Matthews is IN LOVE with Clinton!
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:18 PM
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4. how do you figure that? nt.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:19 PM
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7. True, she's good for ratings. But he loves to trash her and has a man-crush on McCain. nt
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:22 PM
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11. he acts like the nerdy kid spurned by the cheerleader who finally cracks up and goes on a rampage
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:18 PM
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6. They are all white people over 40 years old. BREAKING: ALL WHITE PEOPLE OVER 40 HATE HILLARY!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:19 PM
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8. That makes about as much sense as this OP.
Can we stop with the group attacks already? Sheesh.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:10 PM
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24. You must be kidding. She has some of her strongest support among women
over 40.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:11 PM
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25. Is Russert an Irish name? Many, many people are part Irish. n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:17 PM
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26. Whew, I'm white but not yet 40 AND
I'm Catholic but not Irish!

I DON'T HATE HILLARY CLINTON :bounce:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:21 PM
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9. Russert's an ass, Bill turned Matthews down for a job, Dowd is just jealous
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:24 PM
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14. That's a good summary. nt
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:21 PM
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10. isn't Michael kelly dead?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:22 PM
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12. Yes, he was killed in Iraq.
He wanted to go because he went in 1991. Didn't occur to him he had small kids in 2003 but not in 1991.

He and MoDo were very close.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:28 PM
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15. Yawp. Thats some BIG hate, if it's still going after death.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:33 PM
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16. They DO?? Oh no - don't tell any of those Kennedy people who endorsed her!
What an inane statement.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:36 PM
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17. They're not in the press. And they are divided on the candidates anyway. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:40 PM
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19. Sorry. I hear "Irish Catholic" and I think "Kennedy". It's still beyond inane. nt
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:40 PM
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18. By "hate", do you mean they put a Presidential candidate under scrutiny?
Is this supposed to be treated like a Presidential race for a Garden Club?

If anything, it's easy scrutinizing Clinton's record and many splendorous opinions on nearly every issue.

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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:45 PM
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20. I was born Irish Catholic. I don't particularly mind her,
nor do I particularly like her. I'm now a member of the Greek Orthodox Church, so maybe that's it. The anti-HRC pope-rays don't affect me now.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:48 PM
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32. Me too, and I don't hate her. She's not my first choice but I certainly don't hate her. nt
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:48 PM
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21. Who knows what evil lurks in the
hearts of men. The Shadow knows.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:53 PM
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23. just wondering, who do New York Jews hate? or Black Baptists?
i think it's really icky to smear "Irish Catholics" this way -- as if there's an evil cabal of Mackerel Snappers in the media.

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:19 PM
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27. Here's a list of her endorsements, and it contains plenty of Irish Catholics.
For example, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend of Maryland.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/3/233325/535
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:47 PM
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31. We're talking about the PRESS. Not I-C's in general.
The Kennedys are all over the map on their endorsements.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:11 PM
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35. I didn't get that from the OP, which asked about Irish Catholics.
Where did you say that you were only talking about the press?

The Press isn't supposed to be fawning over any candidate.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:56 PM
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28. Cause Irish Catholics hate everyone...
It's in our genes...

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:55 PM
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33. Now THAT's funny
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 06:03 PM by BeyondGeography
Thinking about my own crazy Irish Catholic side of the family, it could be true, too...Then again, my grandma was a total sweetheart, not a mean bone in her body.

Of course, they ran all over her.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:00 PM
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29. i come from a long line of irish catholics....parents are immigrants to the US.
they both love the Clintons, especially the Da.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:02 PM
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30. I'm Irish Catholic and I don't hate her.
I don't think she can win the general election, but I don't hate her.

:shrug:

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 06:31 PM
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34. Yeah, but you're probably drunk right now so don't know what you're saying
:hide:

(please God let poster know I was joking....)
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:17 PM
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36. I know plenty of Norwegian Lutherans who don't like her
But if you ever listen to Garrison Keiler, you'll know they're just not given to strong displays of emotion.

I, on the other hand, am an IrishCatholicDemocrat (being old enough to have been raised with that was one word) - I don't hate her, but I don't like her and truly hope she's not the nominee and make no secret of it. If I were a Norwegian Lutheran I would merely shrug my shoulders and say "Whatever." as a way of expressing my dislike.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:19 PM
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37. Because she's a woman....
..works for everything else.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:30 PM
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38. These Commentators have never been able to resolve
for themselves--the Lewinsky affair--and move on.

Chris will openly ask--Do you think Bill can behave himself???

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:31 PM
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39. I actually think Chris Mathews kinda likes her in a way he isn't comfortable with.
And neither are we. Ewwwwww.
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