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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:49 PM
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GOBAMA...."It's what I would expect from Rudy...playing with numbers."
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 09:49 PM by calteacherguy
Woo-hoo!!! Tell it like it IS, my man!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:50 PM
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1. No Kidding!
"This is what I would expect from Romney or Guiliani".

:applause:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:51 PM
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3. tell us more about obama that he cant tell a tax increase from a decrease eh? nt
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:55 PM
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9. Cheap shot! From both you and Hillary!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:20 PM
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20. Aw no you don't...Edwards calling Bitzer on a "plant" question?
Your candidate is by far and away the most ignorant, ill mannered, so called presidential candidate to come down the pike. He is no where near qualified as presidential timber. He's a divisive sob! I'm glad the audience showed him just how they feel about him by booing him several times as he spoke. My only regret, they didn't boo him off the stage.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:52 PM
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6. Thanks, always forget how to spell the Ghouls last name, so I just put Rudy.
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 09:54 PM by calteacherguy
But that's what he said. The truth. Yep, he said it! "The upper 6% is not the middle class!"

:applause:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:56 PM
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10. Obama's performance is tentative and unsure of himself..
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 09:56 PM by Tellurian
He definitely does not appear confident with his answers.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:00 PM
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13. LOL.
Dude you CRACK ME UP!

:rofl:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:29 PM
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24. LOL, dude you're easy to crack..
TG you haven't switched to Edwards..yet?

He's a goner. Hillary could have broken his back tonight and she didn't...Points to her for that.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:25 AM
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33. Edwards?
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 01:26 AM by calteacherguy


:puke:
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CalGator Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:25 PM
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22. I actually agree.
He did not want to say he would give drivers licenses to illegal immigrants. They finally got it out of him, though. I disagree with him on that one issue (and he surely knows it is an unpopular view), but he is still my favored candidate.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:32 PM
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27. I disagree with him on many issues namely,
His handling of the McClurkin Gospel Tour and his disrespect towards the GLBT Community and for the Baby Boomers who he's quoted as not having any use for.

You probably disagree with me on this but He is not ready to accept the mantle of this next presidency. He lacks seasoning and gravitas. imo..
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:51 PM
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2. Colbertesque.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:52 PM
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5. But he was wrong...he made a mistake..
Hillary corrected his notion of a Tax increase!
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:53 PM
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7. LOL.
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 09:54 PM by calteacherguy
:rofl:

Hillary is going to have a hard time getting past this one!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:57 PM
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11. She got by it and passed him calling him on his mistake.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:00 PM
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14. Nuts?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:01 PM
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15. Exactly
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 10:01 PM by Lirwin2
Obama is doing HORRIBLE this debate- He's finally being called on his lies.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:02 PM
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16. This Clinton propaganda from her supporters is putting a big grin on my face tonight. nt
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:03 PM
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17. Obama's performance is putting a smile on my face too!
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 10:03 PM by Lirwin2
I can't wait to get my hands on a video of Obama answering the drivers license question :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:10 PM
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18. Your confused..you've changed candidates so many times you don't know which candidate
represents what policy..So, to you, the safest thing to do is call everything propaganda!
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:28 PM
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23. As opposed to actually being propaganda...
:7
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:34 PM
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28. How would he know the difference?
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:38 PM
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30. Maybe having a diversity of expierences gives him insight?
Nah, couldn't be. :popcorn:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:00 PM
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31. That's a new one
Six months ago he was defending Obama on things like his, for instance, his experience. One month ago he was attacking Obama on things like his experience. Now he's back to defending Obama on things like his experience. Every position ever held by Obama has been defended and attacked at one point or another by Calguy. It makes me laugh when people act as if he's credible.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:17 AM
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32. My God, struggling with difficult decisions...The horror! The horror!
Hillary is never wrong about anything.:silly:
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:51 PM
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4. Then she goes on to praise Reagan. WTF? Bad move.
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 09:52 PM by Flabbergasted
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:54 PM
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8. The only reason SS is secure as it is today is because of the bipartisan commission in 83'
Theres nothing wrong with stating historical facts that worked for the people. It True!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:59 PM
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12. The best zinger of the night.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:17 PM
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19. You mean old mush mouth isn't sitting on the fence.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:21 PM
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21. I LUV'd her defending not raising taxes on the upper 6% to shore up Social Security.
And a wonderful moment where Obama called her on it.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:29 PM
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25. FACT-CHECKING HILLARY ON SOCIAL SECURITY
'From NBC's Mark Murray

LAS VEGAS -- She said, "Social Security was on a path to being solvent into 2055," when talking about
the fiscal situation Bush inherited -- and then squandered -- when he took office. But again, we must
make this point: A 2001 Social Security Board of Trustees report, released just a couple of months after
her husband left office, said the program would remain solvent until 2038, not 2055. And now, Social
Security's solvency is 2041, per the Trustees.

Also, she said that raising the income cap on Social Security taxes would amount to a trillion-dollar tax
increase. Yet the AP overheard Clinton last month telling a voter that she might consider such a hike on
that cap, if there was a gap in protecting those making less than $200,000.'

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/15/469388.aspx

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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:30 PM
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26. that was the line of the night!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:35 PM
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29. Obama bombed on the DL for illegals badly..
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 10:38 PM by Tellurian
The very question he called Hillary on for waffling on the last debate..

KARMA!
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:31 AM
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34. That was great, from an Edwards fan
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