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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:43 PM Original message |
On Social Security...the point is not how many are at $97,000 and above now... |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes. Many Americans have reasonable hopes of cracking 100K someday |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Exactly right... |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. The cap is raised with inflation. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. So? Why should there be any cap on paying into SS? |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Because There is a Cap on Taking Out of Social Security |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. It's INSURANCE if you can't work |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. Wonderful RW talking point. |
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vireo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. That's why "donut hole" solution is popular |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Precisely the reason why a 1983 type solution is essental.. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. 2008, the cap will be $102,000 |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. What they should do is |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Earned Income Credit |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. now THAT's waaaaaaaaaay toooooo logical |
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lldu (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. I wish there was no cap .... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Do you think then those above 97K should have their SS payments increased as well... |
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lldu (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I do think there should be a cap on payouts.... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Hence the problem...capping benefits but not contributions... |
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lldu (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Ah! I see your point. nt |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Not that it is a bad idea fiscally... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. so let the elderly poor starve so th people who got rich on their backs can get money they dont need |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. What's the point of advocating a massive tax increase |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. why tell them we are rolling back th give aways to the rich, not a tax increase at all, you are only |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Tin ear... |
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tech3149 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Wow! so many good points and so many bad. Where to start? |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. we could take all the poor old people and just put them on the ice like Eskimos do, oh i forgot no |
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tech3149 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
13. During the late 90's my combined houshold income was around $250K |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I suspect the enlightened views most here have on taxes in relation to services... |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. But you would have been equally comfortable if the same amount was added to your |
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tech3149 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. You might be right but the point is FICA is dedicated to a specific function |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
22. Nice thread |
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tech3149 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. I agree, many good points being made and it's an important subject n/t |
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