Why don't we just skip the election?

[MalloyLiberal]

Hillary is inevitable, so why waste time, money, resources? Just skip the election and have the inauguration. She can put both hands on the bible if she can't make a decision.

Your vote does not matter, your voice does not matter.

2000 - 2008 - George W. Bush
2008 - 2016 - Hillary Clinton
2016 - 2024 - Jeb Bush
2024 - 2032 - Chelsea Clinton
2032 - 2040 - George P. Bush

[CnAnPB]

1. "both hands on the bible"

:rofl:

Funny regardless.

[ginchinchili]

49. That is good.

[fadedrose]

2. Hmm, there's always Paris Hilton

Whoever she is. .Could we learn to talk about her with the same passion?



I'm a Malloy fan too.

Also Stephanie Miller.

If we accept our inevitable presidential fate, a lot of cool people will lose their radio ranting jobs.

For Mike and Stephanie and several others, we'd better keep arguing about the candidates. :)

[MalloyLiberal]

5. At least Stephanie Miller has the fart jokes

[Capn Sunshine]

3. god, that timeline....

:scared:

[MalloyLiberal]

7. Get ready :( sorry, I'd even support Obama if I thought he had a chance

[SaveElmer]

4. I guess the Hillary detractors had all night to stew in their juices...in full whine today...

[ronnykmarshall]

13. Now serving .....

[durrrty libby]

19. Ronny, you find the darndest things

:rofl:

[ronnykmarshall]

26. This joint keeps my smartass-ness flowing!

[fadedrose]

18. This Hillary detractor

wants to know what are her positions you really like on the issues you care to talk about and defend? Don't just tell me who else likes her.

Stuff like universal health care, medicare, social security, immigration, fences and driving licenses, when to bring home our people in Iraq, what to do in Iran, Pakistan, Nafta, and as I think of more, will get back to you.

Take your time in replying. I can spend more time at my favorite pasttime, whining in my chair, while I wait for you. Pass the Puffs.

Enjoy your turkey.

[Armstead]

28. You'll be eating a lot of puffs while you wait

Hillary-geads seem to libe in an issues-free zone.

[tom_paine]

74. Yes. They have adopted the principles and strategies of Bush Propaganda

which I have labeled Goebbels v2.0.

Amazing. And it works for her. It always works, of that I am convinced by my own eyes.

The sciences of advertising, PR, and psychology have given our rulers the ability to forge perpetual chains which are far far mightier than the strongest steel.

I don't know about you, but when Hillary originally said she would be strong in fighting the Bushies, I took heart.

Now I understand that what she meant was she was going to out-Bush the Bushies, at least in confronting her progressive "base" (well, fake base...Hillary's base is the Haves and Have-mores, also), too, and they don't need many warm bodies, only the $$$$$s to buy fake gestalt-realities and bury inconvenient truths on page 27 of the Style Section.

Ironically, why do I suspect that the Clintonistas, when it comes time to point their Puny Wurlitzer at the Bushies, she will demur and revert to the usual tepid gruel we have become accustomed to from our Democratic Leadership?

Always so tough on the weak, so toadying and bootlicking to the strong. It is the way now of the Imperial Amerikan Aristocracy, who have clearly jettisoned the Founding Fathers' principles as naive and archaic.

Sometimes, I still can't believe I am going to vote for Hillary if she is the Dem nominee, but she would be a welcome rest from the ceaseless Bushevik Vampirism for a few years, even though it is almost a certainty she will do nothing to disturb the status quo or the march to tyranny which will resume when the next Bushie takes the Imperial Throne.

But there youy have it: if Hillary is the Democrtaic Nominee in 2008, which she will be, the Corproate Media and the Gestalt-based Propaganda have spoken, I will vote for her.

But I will expect nothing except a brief abatment of the bloodsucking thefts and march to tyranny, not a turnararound, which would endanger the status quo that keeps Hillary's limo well-stocked with caviar, and the Filthy Peasants apathetic, confused, and ignorant.

[wyldwolf]

6. why don't people quit posting this same thing almost daily?

You're not very original.

[MalloyLiberal]

9. Neither is your horse manure

[wyldwolf]

11. what a brilliant come back!

:eyes:

[fadedrose]

14. To be original...

One has to make up stuff.

Otherwise, you're stuck with the truth, as unoriginal as it may be.

Sorry.

[wyldwolf]

15. truth requires evidence. Sorry.

[fadedrose]

23. Evidence?

Try listening to her for a change and see if you can understand her positions from day to day, week to week, listener to listener. You will find your own evidence because you wouldn't accept mine anyway.

[wyldwolf]

24. yes, evidence

Try staying on topic (re-read the OP if you need a reminder of what it is.)

[fadedrose]

25. Am pleading ignorance

What is OP.

Used to go to IRC long time ago. I sort of remember an OP was what you had when there wasn't a BOT. Have forgotten.

Look at who's been having fund-raising parties for her, like Rupert Murdoch. I hear she's palsy with the guy from the Wash Post, Moon something or other. She's want troops to remain at our embassy in Iraq for about forever (biggest embassy in the world), is not against bombing Iran, and tons of other stuff. Do your own research.

[wyldwolf]

29. "OP" is original post or opening post

So, let's stay on topic. Here's the reminder from the OP:

Hillary is inevitable, so why waste time, money, resources? Just skip the election and have the inauguration. She can put both hands on the bible if she can't make a decision.

Your vote does not matter, your voice does not matter.

To which I replied:

why don't people quit posting this same thing almost daily? You're not very original. (background: Every time Hillary has a good debate performance or moves up in the polls, someone does this "let's just skip the election" woe-is-me post)

To which YOU replied:

To be original...One has to make up stuff. Otherwise, you're stuck with the truth, as unoriginal as it may be. Sorry.

I interpreted this as you saying the OP was telling the truth, so I replied:

truth requires evidence. Sorry.

To which you replied:

Evidence? Try listening to her for a change and see if you can understand her positions from day to day, week to week, listener to listener. You will find your own evidence because you wouldn't accept mine anyway.

Here is where you went WAY off topic. NOTHING you wrote is evidence of what the OP claimed. But in response to your off topic addition, I understand her positions perfectly.

Look at who's been having fund-raising parties for her, like Rupert Murdoch.

Who? A Democrat who works for Newscorp held a fundraiser for her SENATE campaign and Murdoch was there. :shrug: Is that any different than the $20,000 Newscorp donated to the presidential campaign of the man in your avatar, Howard Dean?

I hear she's palsy with the guy from the Wash Post, Moon something or other.

You hear that from who? How much more vague can you be?

She's want troops to remain at our embassy in Iraq for about forever (biggest embassy in the world),

So does Obama and Edwards (oops!)

is not against bombing Iran, and tons of other stuff.

She has the same position on Iran that Obama and Edwards has... and "tons of other stuff."

Do your own research.

You do yours and stay off the blogs.

[fadedrose]

40. This post was hard to find..

You're right. It has little to do with not having an election. I was in a big hurry because my dau wanted the computer.

Anyway, I meant the Washington Times, not the Post, and I apologize. I used to know a lot about Sun Myung Moon but forgot most of it. I did hear somebody, can't remember who, on talk radio - had to be Air America or Air America Phoenix, mention that Hillary was getting close to Moon. If you can't believe left radio, who can you believe? And that Moon is close to Murdoch....

I mostly back Biden and Kucinich. Don't bother picking on Dean because in my mind the man's a saint and you are unworthy to tie his shoes. It's only my opinion, not fact, and nobody in here regardless of the number of insults I get will change my mind.

Now whose blog do you want me to stay off of? Can I listen to progressive radio, pretty please?

[cali]

71. Yikes. Inform yourself.

Seriously. The Washington Post is run by the Graham familiy. The Washinton Times is the one owned by the Moonies. You're the one in clear need of availing yourself of some research. Clinton has never said that she's for bombing Iran. I disagree wholeheartedly on her vote on the IWR and Kyle/Lieberman. Those votes figure largely into why I won't vote for her in the primary. Any candidate is, sadly, going to keep troops to guard that obscene Embassy- with the exception of Dennis. And yes, Rupert Murdoch gave a fund raising party for her when she was running for Senate. That probably has far more to do with the fact that he has has significant business interests in NY, than any vested interest in seeing her president. No media conglomerate is more anti-Clinton than Newscorp.

Oh, and "other stuff" doesn't cut it as an argument.

[John Q. Citizen]

65. That's Hill's position on all the issues. You nailed it!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

8. If skipping the election and swearing in Clinton was an option, one might be

wise to jump at it.

No election is a sure thing.

[MalloyLiberal]

10. The powerful Washington interests

will make sure she wins
The Republicans will put up a weak candidate that has no chance like Rudy

[FiveGoodMen]

16. Like they did with Lieberman

[rwheeler31]

46. Then the wiil let the economy tank. We will not have a

Dem elected again.

[MalloyLiberal]

47. The powerful interests really just do not care, its about what is good for THEIR bottom line

Not yours

[durrrty libby]

12. Same shit different day

:boring: :boring: :boring: :boring:

[polichick]

17. What is this, a wah wah wah thread?

Feeling sorry for ourselves before a single primary vote has even been cast? The only thing inevitable about election 2008 is that reporters, analysts, bloggers and posters will continue to spin stories to fill pages and airtime.

[asthmaticeog]

20. I don't care one bit for her politics either, but this OP is some really stupid shit.

Seriously, is this actually supposed to be an argument?

[AtomicKitten]

21. My college age son reminded me of this.

That there has been a Bush or Clinton in the White House his entire life.

[oasis]

32. Is your "college age son" writing letters to the editor about amending the U.S. Constitution as it

pertains to presidential eligibility?

[AtomicKitten]

34. his observation is factual

[oasis]

35. Another fact: All U.S. presidents have been white males. Pass that along. (eom)

[AtomicKitten]

37. I'm really not certain what your point is.

My son was born in 1986. His comment was valid and factual.

I think you are just trying to be contrary just cuz. So, I'll leave you to it. Enjoy.

[LSK]

22. why are you here?

[MonkeyFunk]

27. I'd be happy to skip the election

if idiot trolls would just shut the fuck up about it.

[MalloyLiberal]

41. While we're at it, let Hillary declare Martial Law so we have no democracy or opinions

[Name removed]

60. Deleted message

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[MalloyLiberal]

69. Reporting

[cobalt1999]

30. but I WANT to vote for Hillary.

What a whiner!

[MalloyLiberal]

42. She doesn't particularly care what you want

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

31. I'm taking my ball and going home

:cry:

[oasis]

33. I called UPS.Your next shipment of Kleenex tissue should arrive shortly.

:cry:

[desi]

36. Well since you told me that you would not vote for her

even if she was the Dem nominee maybe you should just pack it up and move on to "Greener" pastures.

[MalloyLiberal]

43. No point in voting if the game is rigged

[EstimatedProphet]

38. Tell you what - why don't we have the elections anyway?

Feel free to not vote if you don't want to, and encourage Republican rule forever.

[MalloyLiberal]

44. Clinton = Republican with a D after

[Rowdyboy]

39. Just take your medicine and have a nice nap.....

Nothing is inevitable, primaries are entertaining and very educational for the candidates, one of our guys will eventually win the nomination and go on to beat the holy shit out of the Republican nominee. If it should turn out to be Hillary Clinton the world will not end. If the country could survive Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and the George Bushes we can certainly survive a Hillary Clinton administration.

Democracy will be restored regardless.

[MalloyLiberal]

48. Go to hell.

[Rowdyboy]

50. Classy response.....I think my reply is an obvious "Fuck you"

Checkmate.....

[MonkeyFunk]

62. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[Rowdyboy]

66. These people make me LOL too!

:thumbsup:

What can you say? A bunch of middleschool whiners....

[mtnsnake]

63. Thank you

:thumbsup:

[Rowdyboy]

67. Its nice to be around people who understand how important it is to win next time.....

:thumbsup:

[Lord Helmet]

45. Dynasty was a crappy idea in the 80s and a crappy idea now.

[Rowdyboy]

51. Jesus, this thread must really suck..its anti-Hillary and only has 2 recs for the Greatest Page.....

After 8 hours on DU. Thats pretty sad. Keep it up! You'll get better and less obvious!

[Girlieman]

52. What party would that be?

Demoblicans?

Republocrats?

Maybe just the G.O.D. (Grand old Donkey)

[AlCzervik]

53. wow this isn't locked yet? your flame is teflon coated.

dayam.

[MalloyLiberal]

57. No, see in America we still have this thing called democracy and debate, although its fading

[Clintonista2]

54. Who is "George P. Bush"?

If it's Bush's future son, I say anybody who can become president at 24 deserves it.

[AlCzervik]

55. Son of Jeb.

[MalloyLiberal]

56. You really aren't the sharpest tool in the shed are you

[AlCzervik]

58. come on now, didn't you just tell me last night to not use personal attacks?

now you knew when you posted this thread the hilarity would not ensue so now you have to live by it and really, it hasn't been that bad, i've seen way worse.

[Clintonista2]

59. Oh gawd

Please tell me that you, of all people, did not just say that! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Edited to add: I have better things to do with my time than to memorize the Bush family tree.

[Kurovski]

68. La-de-da.

De-da.

[Auntie Bush]

61. Chelsea doesn't seem much interested in politics, but I

bet she'd be good. The Bushes are history! Who'd want a relative of the worst president in history or maybe the only president to end up in prison. We could post pictures of them going in for a visit. Nah! Not to worry. There's much more important things to worry about. Also, remember we all thought Dean was inevitable. So don't count your ugly ducklings till they grow up.

[asdjrocky]

64. Ha-lari-FUCKING-is!

Man I wish I would have thought of that.:cry:

[Perry Logan]

70. The motion is seconded.

[HughBeaumont]

76. I don't know what's worse.

Your post or the fact that you're not kidding.

Banana Republics and monarchies are not what American democracy is supposed to be about. At least on the surface, anyway.

Once again, go away, Perry Lieberman.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

72. The U.S.A. is now just another banana republic with its ruling families that take turns.

[Telly Savalas]

73. You're going to a progressive message board and telling people not to vote?

Go fuck yourself.

[shenmue]

75. Waaaaaah

Crybaby.

First of all, your chart makes no sense. Second, if Hillary is anything like the Republicans, as Malloy insanely asserts, why is she leading in the polls among Democrats?

Where was Malloy when Hillary first stuck up for national health care, and was savaged by the Republicans and the press?

How 'conservative' is national health care? How 'Republican' is sticking up for abortion rights?

...I thought so.

Cranky, contradictory stances like this are why I stopped listening to Malloy. He's bitter and he's on the fringe. He'll never elect a damn thing.

I know you don't like Hillary because she is popular. A lot of people at this site are unrealistic and want a candidate who lives in an ivory tower as much as they do. Sorry, I'd expect babyish people like you to skip the election, but real people probably won't.

You can't handle the idea that not only *does* your vote and your voice matter, but a lot of people have said they want to use their vote and their voice for Hillary's candidacy.

Stop your whining martyrdom fantasies. If you're really fair, why don't you talk about the other candidates? Who *do* you like?

You can't build anyone up, you just tear down. However, Clinton's done what her constituents want in the Senate-- years of hard work that apparently don't appeal to you. People like you expect the war to end tomorrow, with a wave of a magic wand. I'm sorry to let you know that in the real world, things don't work that way.

Your type of candidate probably won't work well across the spectrum. I don't know what you're looking for, a saint, perhaps?

Down here in reality, grown-ups look at people like you and laugh.

[kenfrequed]

77. Uhm

A. Abortion is not the only progressive issue.

B. Any take on 'universal healthcare' that mandates private insurers will prove to be both a massive boondoggle and an even more massive feeding trough for corporate welfare.


Seriously there are numerous progressive issues:
Nafta/Free trade (and the opposition thereof)
Raising the caps on Social security to ensure our elderly are covered
Global Warming
Getting out of Iraq
Lifetime Education
Media diversity
Net Neutrality
Sustainabile ecology and economy.