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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:20 PM Original message |
Obama tells Clinton to come clean re. "scandalous information" plant |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. lol, "it's horrible Novack said this without any evidence..." |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. GOOD. Put up or shut up. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Uhm, Mr. Obama? |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I am way to visual for my own good! |
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whirlygigspin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. she found out Dick Cheney is his cousin?--eek |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
176. Obama took Novak's bait, hook, line, and sinker. What a fool. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. Perfect response |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. It's being picked up by Time/Halperin and, of course, Sludge |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Picked up from where? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Nope...it's all Novak right now but story is spreading like wildfire |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. I agree--he's not an internet crack-pot, much as folks are dismissing him here. |
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hedda_foil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
121. Novak is scum, but his reporting is inevitably well-sourced. |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Heh, I dunno |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Put up or shut up is the way to go, I think |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Yep |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Thing is... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Well, right or wrong, |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. I find it sad that Obama |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
138. Was he incorrect in stating that Plame worked for the CIA.? |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. We're Trusting Novak Now? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Novak is not pushing that shit just because he came up with it |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. What rumor? |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
73. Come on, Katz, you obviously have some shit on Obama |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. When has Novak been wrong? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
145. Novak has been wrong a lot, according to Media Matters |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. Come clean, Hillary. What do you got on Obama? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Wouldn't it make more sense for Obamas' campaign |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I've hearing about something on one of the major Dem candidates |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Hearing it where? |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. ha ha, the point is to spread poison without facts. unlike donnie mcclurkin who does it in public n |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. The LA Times is supposedly sitting on a big scandal about one of the Prez |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. Right - |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
164. I can think of one Dem who would...if she thought it would make a difference... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #164 |
172. If her husband would spend 2 hours with Richard Mellon Scaife, |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. I wish he wouldn't give credibility |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
22. Insidious cheese - Deja Vu - Circa 2004. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. I am very surprised to see you post that |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. So, I shouldn't believe my lying ears? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. What rally, when and where? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I'm waiting for that answer too. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
70. It was broadcast on CSPAN. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Either you have a terrible memory or you're just not being honest |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Yeah, I'll just have to go with my lying ears then. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Yeah I guess so.... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Here's your link: |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. Debunked |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. bullshit |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Ah the last refuge of the incoherent .... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Oh, I'm sorry. Are only you allowed caustic retorts? |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. and debunked. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. If it makes you feel better to say so. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Link, please nt |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
100. It was at the rally where Michael Moore appeared: |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #100 |
113. Nope... Clark got out of the race on 2/14/2004 |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Oliphant's story was in February talking about Clark's problem with "rumor-mongering" |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Sorry, Oliphant specifically mentions the final day of the campaign |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #123 |
142. Oliphant CONFIRMED it ..... |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #142 |
148. Oliphant wasn't there |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. Ya know how Spitzer retracted the DL thingie? |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #151 |
155. OLIPHANT WASN"T THERE |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #155 |
160. He interviewed Clark and quoted him: |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #160 |
162. No where does Oliphant say he interviewed Clark |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. He QUOTED Clark. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #163 |
166. No he didn't... no quotation marks |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #148 |
173. I trust Oliphant over Lizza |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #173 |
175. Except the reporters on the bus say he did not |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. If true, my opinion of Clark just dropped about 80 percent. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. I'm very confident that |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. He never said it |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. "Off the record" conversation? Not his finest moment? Sounds like he was spreadin' dirt. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. He said it live and out loud on CSPAN at the end of a rally. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. I'm hoping this was just his political newbie-ness coming out, and not |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Be careful what you believe |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #83 |
95. see response #93 |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #95 |
124. See response #122 |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Really? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #95 |
130. I read it, |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. More proof - |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #133 |
146. How is that proof? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. So, you are equating Oliphant with Drudge? Oliphant confirmed the story. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. Oliphant was NOT THERE |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. " ... in what (Clark) inelegantly called an "intern scandal." |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #156 |
167. Except Clark did not call it an "intern scandal" inelegantly or otherwise |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. So, you are saying Mr. Oliphant is a liar or just me? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. As I said |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Untrue, completely and utterly untrue. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. Put up or shut up |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. here you go: |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #97 |
122. That article does not say what you say |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. Your assumption is that was only that occasion that Clark is alleged to have said this. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #125 |
141. The Boston Globe article does not say what you say |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. Oliphant CONFIRMED it. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #144 |
150. Oliphant does not prove your case |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Yeah, that's what I thought. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. You bet your sweet ass we're done |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #154 |
157. well, we clearly aren't friends |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #157 |
165. Look to yourself |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. dupe |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
104. I taped every c-span appearance he ever made. I don't remember anything like that. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. Did you watch it to the very end of the broadcast |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
116. nope... Clark got out of the race on 2/14/2004 |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. Your reading comprehension could use some work. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
88. He was under no obligation to be talking nice about Kerry |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
169. Then you were the only one |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Really? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
24. Is Obama trying to kill his candidacy,., |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Good, hope she takes that approach |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. There would have to be a "real person" to fire first. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. And you believe Obama just read the papers and made a staement? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Exactly. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. So Obama and Novak have conspired in your opinion... |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. exactly. I smell a set up. Rovian tactics. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. You don't know that. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I'm not sure what that means, |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. It's pretty sad Obama supporters are so desperate... |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Are you serious? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Absolutely... |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. So in your opinion Hillary has nothing to do with this |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. It'a a ploy by Novak... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
59. Robert Novak is not the same as Matt Drudge--he's an asshole, but a credible journalist. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. He is a right wing partisan... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. The only thing that makes someone lose credibility with me is if they |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. They lose credibility when they demonstrate they have no scuples... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. Lack of journalistic ethics does not equal "liar". Novak likes to |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
99. heh....talk about a straight line. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
107. Straight to Obama it looks like...nt |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #107 |
129. It would seem to apply to many, both those running and those supporting. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
161. "credible?" how far have we fallen when a biased-right-wing-hack |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
82. If Drudge is so bad why has Hillary been playing footsie with him? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Oh please... |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Why is the Clinton campaign cultivating him, then? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #91 |
106. Politics of Hope went away a long time ago... |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. And continue to avoid the issue of why Hillary is dancing with Drudge |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Continue to believe that if you like... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. Does anyone find this "Scandalous Information" on Obama ironic? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
111. a whisper campaign is as good as it will get for them |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
34. Hillary can't respond to every nasty rumor |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
39. So now he's attacking her for something that ROBERT NOVAK wrote? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. i am with you on that comment! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
41. Novak: Agents of Hillary claim 'scandalous information' on Obama; decided not to use it... |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
87. Ah, the 'somebody told me somebody said they were told that somebody said" |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
43. Oooff. This is getting ugly. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
51. Seems to me that Novak is the guilty party here. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. He has ethical problems, but unless you can show he provided bad info |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #63 |
89. He's a partisan shill, an accessory to treason |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. No--you CAN be credible and be unethical. Facts, and the ethics involved |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #96 |
134. WHAT information? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. Yep--he likes to say "I heard something from somebody"--remains to be |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
53. ''nameless AGENTS'' and robert novak -- |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. " It was devoid of facts, but heavy on innuendo and insinuation... " |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Obama is doing the right thing: responding quickly to any |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. He responded to the wrong person.nt |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. He's Going After The Wrong Target |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
55. Occam's Razor |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
60. oh stop it |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. Gotta agree, but |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. See 55 |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
66. Novak Matlin Carville.Circle Jerk. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
86. Like the madrassa story a few months ago...this is the latest example of RW disinformation.. |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #86 |
159. And the Clintons don't like to divide for their own personal benefit? |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
94. It seems "plant" has joined "meme" and "frame" as trendy words to use incorrectly. nt |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
103. I'm beyond hesistant to take anything from Novak seriously. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. He shouldn't have even dignified Novak's column, imho |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #115 |
132. "Right wing garbage" is redundant. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
117. Typical Mark Penn actions. |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
127. and Terry MacCulliffe, and James Carvielle |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #127 |
139. If You're Going To Slime People At Least Spell Their Names Right |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #117 |
137. More Nasty And Baseless Accusations From You Based On Rank Speculation And Conjecture |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. Mark Penn is corrupt and is Hillary's chief adviser.That is not "conjecture". |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #143 |
147. Do You Have Proof That Mark Penn Is Linked To This Current Action Which You Implied Is The Case? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #147 |
158. I said he probably wrote the rebuttal! Sheesh.And it is circular reasoning just like him. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
126. Clinton campaign's response to Obamas statement on Novak hit piece... |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #126 |
135. Thanks for the reality check |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #126 |
140. His Amateurishness Would Doom Us In The General Election |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
131. Novacula? Plame participant? known liar? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #131 |
178. "Aren't sources of ill-repute banned here" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
174. Clinton accepts money from Murdoch, feeds stories to Drudge; why not plant a rumor with Novak? |
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toughboy (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
177. Obama is very, very desperate it would appear. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
179. Clinton unleased over 100 people on Iowa the same weekend she smears Obama. |
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