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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:52 PM
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I'm perfectly happy that the Clinton fans are making an issue about the "elderly woman" video
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 08:53 PM by zulchzulu
If you watch the edited video (notice how at 12 seconds, there is a dissolve), you see a woman who is obviously a Republican whose sole political diet is Fox News. You see Obama trying to be reasonable with her but eventually just letting her know she's a wanker....politely but firmly.

Is she "elderly"? She might be in her mid-fifties. Is she an informed Iowa voter? Obviously not.

Was she pre-screened before coming into the rally like Hillary Clinton's rallies have been known to be? No.

Did she make an ass out of herself and make Obama look intelligent and actually be able to respond to her unfortunate Republican perception? Absolutely!

So please, Hillary supporters...please keep bringing up the video. Inquisitive people will watch and come to the conclusion that the woman was a wingnut. And it additionally makes Hillary supporters look desperate and juvenile...

:thumbsup:

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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:55 PM
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1. Obama was certianly yelling his response.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:58 PM
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2. And rightfully so.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:59 PM
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3. Baloney.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:00 PM
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4. Clinton was certainly cackling during the debates.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 09:02 PM by ClarkUSA
It was loud cackling, too. Yelling, even.


lol
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:51 PM
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13. What does your post have anything to do with topic.?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:55 PM
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17. His/Her hatred of all things Clinton
has moved way beyond mere politics.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:35 PM
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21. That's rather sad.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:31 PM
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34. Sad is when a Hillaryworlder attacks a good Democrat for correcting a Republican's ignorance.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:27 PM
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32. Oh, the Hypocrisy of Hillaryworld! You're cracking me up.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 11:43 PM by ClarkUSA
You don't get satire, either, do you?

Double duh.

Take your delicate sensibilities over here, Daisy. An Obama hate-filled Hillaryworlder is going beyond politics by attacking a good Democrat
who took on a Republican heckler who insisted Iraq was responsible for 9/11 and who declared Democrats weak on national security :

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3737418&mesg_id=3737418


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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:26 PM
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31. You don't get satire, do you?
I was responding to poster #1's silly assertion with a correspondingly silly one of my own.

Duh.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:21 PM
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8. Then you have a very different definition of yelling than I do
He was speaking firmly and with passion, but he wasn't yelling.
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:25 PM
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9. Apparently your definition of yelling is different than mine
I think of yelling as, you know, yelling. Obama was just talking in that video.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:18 PM
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19. Should he have sung it and danced a jig to make you feel good?
Am sorra missuh Dave, but missuh Obama 'sgoin' ta tawk back to da creezee lady wit' da repuglican mix ans let hus know heez not gonna let huh talk crazee 'round him.

Ya dig, missuh Dave?


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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:40 PM
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35. Why reply to post #1 using "Gone With the Wind" vernacular? Did you detect
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 11:41 PM by oasis
some coded message in his comment?:scared: Inquiring minds want to know.

:shrug:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:39 PM
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22. Obama never answered her Questions..
here is the part that was edited out of the FOX Video!

The lady's questions!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty6krf18huA
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:54 PM
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27. Not to mention...
that Fox and MSNBC are running slightly different versions of it;

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=6d505183-df95-48b7-90b7-e71717ea2dbd
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:16 PM
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29. The stumbling you hear is because he doesn't have the answers
and he's veering way off and going off into an emotional diatribe..

Notice the high pitch in his voice? It isn't passion, it's FEAR!

Also, there are 2 words missing from the Fox video..The word US and the word Iowa have been edited out.

US, comes right after "they hate the Sunnis and Shiites as much as .... (the blank) is us..

And a town in Iowa was substituted for the state State.. And the reason for the different lead up in the video. They created a scenario to fit the answer. Because, there are people in this world who can actually disseminate what they hear! And they know Obama failed miserably again, just as he did in the debates.

A shoddy coverup!
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:23 PM
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30. Exactly...
just what I was thinking.....can't have the golden boy messing up...
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:30 PM
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33. I don't what to see this let go..
I hope someone has the chutzpah to BRING IT to the fore!

This is an important issue. If our president can't answer a question with an appropriate answer; what are we doing here, electing an extension of what we already have?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:01 PM
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5. She certainly a republican
and Grundy County is a conservative county.

She is on the Board of Directors of Iowans for Tax Relief...look em up and gag! x(

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:19 PM
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7. good god -12,000+ white people in grundy county
less than 2% non white...i`ve been through there a few times and it`s nothing but farms. really a great representation of the average make-up of america.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:02 PM
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6. What hogwash!
There were only two or three that jumped on this. Most of the supporters of Hillary disagreed that Obama was yelling.

What a way to stir the pot!
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:35 PM
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10. That's not what I observed
Earlier today, before I tuned the myriad "Obama yelling" threads out completely, I noticed the half dozen most vocal Clinton supporters on DU crowing about the story at great length, and in a very nasty, sniping fashion I might add. Literally 50% of the posts on any given thread, sometimes reaching 60-100 posts, would be this same small group of people.

I don't hold this against Hillary, or the many thousands of die-hard supporters she has who don't act like childish cretins, but you might want to have a serious chat with those few. They aren't helping your cause at all. Obviously I cannot name names, but I'm quite certain you know the DU'ers I am referring to.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:42 PM
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23. If you thought it was crap, I apologize
It just seems that some of the Hillary Clinton supporters want to bring this kind of crap up and, as my post stated, it's fine with me.

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:42 PM
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11. Really I saw no Hillary supporters here basking in the sight
fact who in the hell cares what Obama does or does not do. If he wants to yell I don't care, I let the Obama supporters mess their drawers trying to post crap like Hillary killed cats.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:51 PM
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14. You must have missed this thread, then...
Read it through for all the high-fives by Hillaryworld acolytes against a good Democrat who stood up to a Republican's ignorance
about the non-link between 9/11 and Iraq and her insinuation that Democrats are weak on national security.

Obama yells at elderly Iowa voter
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3737418&mesg_id=3737418

And this post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3740068&mesg_id=3740082
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:52 PM
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15. Yep.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:49 PM
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12. I'm just glad you're happy. Hillary-bashers are so unhappy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:55 PM
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:01 PM
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18. That's Hillaryous, coming from you...
And Queen Clinton's loyal subjects at DU would know all about cultism and mental disease.

Say, love that new Iowa poll of likely caucus goers that has Hillaryworld down by 4% and Obama in the lead at 30%, don't you?

lol

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:45 PM
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24. Wow, your pathetic drivel never ceases to amaze me
You always outdo yourself.

I think you hit bottom and boom! Another clunker!

:freak:


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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:26 PM
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20. the REAL video of this that's not distorted and run through a BLENDER actually sounds normal
wow, does this video ever make the makers and instigators of it (& some of the title of the threads here on DU) look dirty, and frankly, it gives DU an appearance that we do this kind of tactic!

I am one of the first to criticize Barack's mistakes when honestly warranted, and he's had a few we all know well, but this is by far the most overblown, straw-reaching, attempt to dirty a candidate I've seen in some time - since when does speaking passionately mean you're YELLING at someone?


Some are making it out that he's anti-women and anti-elderly. (she's not 65, I take offense that the age of the person is put into this, and that she's a woman) - it's totally going at it from the same viewpoint I read on a blog the other day - "Barack stood over Hillary and looked threateningly at her, he's so much taller than she is, he shouldn't have done that" ======= JIMINY CRICKET WHAT RACIST MALARKEY that was!

The REAL video of this that's not distorted and run through a BLENDER actually sounds normal and impassioned.

Believe you me, if he was rude I would put it as a video on my OWN youtube page - it's not even close, y'all! Don't h8 on the man for speaking passionately about his kids and call it yelling at an elderly woman - and she's not "elderly", 63 is not that old, upper middle age nearing senior age - but it's not respectful to call her elderly, you should know that - AGAIN - think that through - ELDERLY ---- early 60s? So transparent...


We all know there are certain people who will attack the candidate that is not their fave ruthlessly, and then there are those who worship their fave to the point of allowing them to make any horrible mean spirited gaffe and defending it - this falls into the first description.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:45 PM
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25. Why did Obama supporters make
a big deal out of Hillary dealing with a loud heckler.
The heckler was 15 times worse than the old lady.

BTW I am a Hillary supporter and haven't posted one word about
Obama and the old lady. Who gives a flying f*k what Obama
says to an old lady.

And why is he fixated because someone tittered? Why does he go
to PIECES over a false rumor? I wonder about this guy,
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:49 PM
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26. A tough day for the Hillarians
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 10:51 PM by BeyondGeography
A good number of them here started out thinking this non-event was the beginning of the end for Obama, only to see most of the board disagree and by day's end their girl is not only down in the WP-ABC poll, but 55% of Iowa voters prefer what Obama's offering (change) compared with 33% for Ms. Business as Usual (experience).
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 12:15 AM
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36. In politics a day can be an eternity. nt
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 12:22 AM by calteacherguy
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:15 PM
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28. Here is the middle-aged woman's question...
"I want to know specifically what you would do to protect this country...from terrorism...and are we going to close the borders...and are we going to get rid of the illegal immigrants..."

:crazy:

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