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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 03:52 PM Original message |
Hillary (and Dodd) try to disenfranchise Iowa college students. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. If it's legal, |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. They're saying that students should be discouraged |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. No, they are saying they should vote only in their state's primary/caucus. Not both. nt |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. They can vote where they choose |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Disenfranchisement comes if they are allowed to vote twice. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Dodd and Clinton don't want them to register in Iowa. n/t |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. I didn't read where it said that... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. It's Republicans who use that argument |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. That isn't entirely true. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Spoken like a true Republican |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #62 |
80. You think name calling helps you candidate? Think again. nt |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
68. What??? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. There is a |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
63. I agree. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Sorry Geek, I didn't read it correctly, |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. How is following the law not fair? n/t |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. If Iowa isn't their primary state for voting, |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. For HRC, what is fair is whatever helps her. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Dodd too eh? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Of course it's legal |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. clinton should follow obama and import thousands of people to Iowa to vote for her nt |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Students who live there 9 months out of the year |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. One person. One vote. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. They can register in Iowa. n/t |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. I've no problem with that, as long as they don't also try to |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
67. Excellent. Are they? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
51. why? because the race in iowa is getting close |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
50. obama importing people into iowa? |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. Oh never mind |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I know the feeling. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. Gobama! |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. May I Ask You A Serious Question? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
85. Yes |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. I go to the University of Wisconsin-Madison |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. People from Arkansas shouldn't be allowed to run for office in New York |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. THere should be more strict rules for being a Senator |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. New York elections ought to be for New Yorkers. n/t |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. But let me geuss- Illinois elections can still be for Hawaiians right? |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. completely ridiculous comparison |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. What the hell are you going on about? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. How many years did Obama live in Illinois before he ran for senate? |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Why change the parameters of your original statement? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I never said it was about what state they are originally from |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Nah, you just agreed with somebody who did. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Show me, cuz I have no idea what you're laughing about. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Here ya go: |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Did I say anywhere that "I agree?" Or did I just respond stating my own opinion? |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Semantics won't help you out on this one. n/t. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. He moved to Chicago first in the early 1980s until entering Harvard in the late 1980s. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
71. 4 years of college ties them to Iowa FOREVER? |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. that's the wonderful thing |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Look at how they've changed the argument. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. please tell me you're kidding |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. To appropriately represent the views of an entire state |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. the laws of NY state do not buy your sanctimonious nonsense |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. But some do, and you know that |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
73. Jaw on floor. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
81. Perhaps senators who miss a certain percentage of senate votes should be barred from running again |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. I am hoisting the Clinton people on their own petard. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
66. I guess Bobby Kennedy was just a carpetbagger too, right? |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
76. nice one! |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Is that where you are registered to vote? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Is that even legal? |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. I don't know that where the legalities come in on a caucus/primary. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
69. Where are you registered? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Ummm, I go to Wisconsin, and Live in Jersey. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Which didn't answer the question. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Im registered In Jersey. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. Your subject line reveals your bias |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. exactly. He put Dodds' name in brackets... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. Dodd is a parenthetical |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. This is just ridiculous |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. Republican-lite. Disappointing to see Dodd go there. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. yes indeed. some of us actually think that dehumanizing people |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. Some people are slimeballs |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
19. sO THEY CAN VOTE TWIC E HELL I WISH I COULD. |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. awesome! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. No, they'd have to register in Iowa. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
64. While I was in college I knew plenty of people that changed their registration |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. When I was in college I changed my residency also |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
65. I remember as a student at Dartmouth |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
70. How 'bout the thousands and thousands of out of state college students |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
78. This makes me sick... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
79. Meanwhile, Hypocritical Hillaryworld is doing the same thing while attacking Obama for it. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. That's not the same thing at all. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. It's less the hypocrisy and more the contempt for young voters |
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