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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:30 AM Original message |
Why Sen. Biden's comments about Sen. Obama are a problem |
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KittyWampus
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. Obama's entire career was as a CIVIL RIGHTS LAWYER. It's the only relevant experience he has. |
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cali
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. That is not true. |
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KittyWampus
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. 1st. My point is to expose the stupidty of those who ignore his 9 yrs as Civil Rights lawyer |
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cali
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. By the time any new President is sworn is, he will have been |
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MNDemNY
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
52. Cali, you KNOW he was NOT a PROFESSOR. |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. This is the same argument you made in another thread prior to my starting this one |
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chimpymustgo
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
51. EffieBlack, thanks for explaining this in such a clear, compelling way. Unfortunately, |
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boobooday
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Why isn't he qualified for secretary of state |
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KittyWampus
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Wow, a professor. It'd be hard to top that in terms of relevant, real life experience. |
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boobooday
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Well, speaking as a professor myself |
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KittyWampus
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. He wasn't a professor. He was a lecturer. For a short time. And do you think in the real world |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Yes, I think a president in the real world would certainly do that |
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Alexander
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Sun Dec-02-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
88. Almost as much as Senator Hairplugs. |
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cali
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. He's not qualified to be SoS |
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Jennifer C
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Yeah |
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Kahuna
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Why do you keep saying that when you know it isn't true? |
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KittyWampus
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
63. And his resume still doesn't warrant being in contention for Attorney General |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. What in your view are the qualifications for being Attorney General? |
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zabet
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
2. However one takes it, |
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KittyWampus
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Biden probably said that because he is familiar with Obama's 9 yr career as a CIVIL RIGHTS LAWYER |
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cali
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. stop misrepresenting Obama's career. |
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KittyWampus
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. How is mentioning his 9 year career as Civil Rights lawyer "misrepresenting" his career? |
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cali
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. It's called a lie by omission. As I'm sure you know. |
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KittyWampus
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. You want to talk about lies? Obama never was a law professor. He was a non-tenured senior lecturer |
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cali
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Fine. He taught con law. That is the truth |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. I've never heard Obama call himself a "law professor" |
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Lucinda
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
79. Actually he does say he was a professor: |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. That is a correct statement |
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gateley
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Sun Dec-02-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
90. The reason Biden ran for office initially was because of his response to the |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. I haven't accused Biden of racism or bigotry. |
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cali
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you so, so much for this thoughtful and spot on piece. |
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demnan
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
4. Since Obama is ahead of Biden |
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rucky
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
33. That's kinda how the whole exchanged started. |
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Jennifer C
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. Is there a transcript or video available yet of Obama asking Biden the question? |
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gateley
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Sun Dec-02-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
97. I just went to look and the only transcript available is from 2004. I assume |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
11. When people call Clinton "Hillary" and other candidates by their last name |
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cali
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Too bad you can't see that it does have to do with race and |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I see you have a double standard--I find that interesting. |
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cali
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. bullshit. I think there's plenty of sexism around people's attitudes |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Then I don't quite understand your response to me in the earlier post |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. You have blatantly misrepresented my post |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. sorry, I do believe you said it was offensive |
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1corona4u
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. 2 off the cuff comments is not a "history"... |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Thanks for understanding my opinion |
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ilovesunshine
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
25. I actually think that many think Obama is Obama's first name. |
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Captain Hilts
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. Since 'Eleanor', first ladies that make headlines have been addressed by first names to differentiat |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. there was plenty of sexism when Elenor was first lady! |
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ripple
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
81. Hillary's campaign refers to her as 'Hillary' |
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ruggerson
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
23. Effie, I completely understand what you're saying |
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Cameron27
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #23 |
48. That's a very good point. |
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
24. Deleted sub-thread |
Tejanocrat
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
31. The problem with Biden walking into the Black-Brown forum and dismissing Obama is it fits a pattern |
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
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Tejanocrat
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I counted 5 gaffes with racial overtones, and that's just from this campaign cycle. |
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pscot
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. It may not look like a duck, or walk like a duck |
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1corona4u
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. See my post #29... |
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Colobo
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Exactly. |
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Renew Deal
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
69. You've highlighted the downside of Biden |
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dsc
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
32. absolutely terrific post |
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Colobo
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Yep. The post is excellent. |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
102. Thanks. |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
101. Thanks. |
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BeyondGeography
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
40. We're playing the ineptitude card...which Dopey Joe displays too often |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Great post! |
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BeyondGeography
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Right back atcha, Effie |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
46. But you ARE the ones making this a racial issue where there is none. |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Given your history of attacking anyone who tries to rationally discuss race |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. I really resent that. This morning is the only time I've discussed race on DU. |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. This is NOT the first time you have discussed race on DU |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. It is hateful and it is dishonest. |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. this sounds like a reasoned response |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Who has called anyone a racist? |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
70. It really is. Racism has many disguises. |
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Sun Dec-02-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
99. Right on point, ginchinchili! |
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Froward69
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
47. Thus in short |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I will not respond to a red herring |
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1corona4u
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. Uhm, HELLO, LOL...you just did...LOL |
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dsc
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. If he had said AG or Supreme Court |
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Froward69
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. personally i like Obama |
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Bodhi BloodWave
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Exactly what experience is he lacking |
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Froward69
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. He simply steped over his |
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Bodhi BloodWave
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. That does not explain what experience he is lacking tho |
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Froward69
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. The Gop will |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. What is Biden's executive experience? |
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Froward69
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. I never said he had any |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. You're not making any sense |
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Froward69
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. simply put |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. You're right - 25 years experience in the Senate makes one a shoo-in for the presidency |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. You haven't answered the question |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #55 |
72. You think he's qualified to be VP, but not AG? |
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Froward69
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. I never mentioned AG. |
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KittyWampus
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Obama would NOT BE CONSIDERED for those roles now. You know it. Admit it. It's ridiculous |
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
75. he certainly would be more qualified than |
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Inuca
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
83. CONTEXT! |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Dec-02-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. Thanks for your reasoned post, and it DOES make a difference. |
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demommom
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Sun Dec-02-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #83 |
100. Thank you Inuca!! |
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gateley
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Sun Dec-02-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
91. Excellent post, EffieBlack - And you made me realize that since I'm convinced |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Thanks, Gateley |
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ClarkUSA
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
92. Welcome to DU, Effie... and thanks for the mature spot-on analysis. |
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jillan
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
95. Effie - they are only a problem because people like you are making them a problem. |
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beaconess
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Sun Dec-02-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. You're right - If Effie would just shut up and go away, all would be right with the world |
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jillan
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. I am sorry you are filled with such hatred. |
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JustAnotherGen
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Sun Dec-02-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
96. Thanks for giving your POV |
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Think82
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
104. You can raise concerns about it, but it doesn't mean those concerns are right. |
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beaconess
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Maybe Biden supporters should be more concerned about their guy's propensity for putting his foot in |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. What's insensitive about it? |
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beaconess
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. I'm supposed to wait for the networks to tell me how to react to something? |
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PatSeg
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Reminds me of Rovian politics |
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beaconess
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. No one has attached Biden on civil rights |
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EffieBlack
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. You are SO right |
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
106. Fantastic post. |
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