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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:00 PM Original message |
Campaign Memo From Rove To Obama: How To Beat Hillary |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is BS. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. It is, but it isn't. This is Rove's actual article. nt |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Hard to believe. Has this been verified? What is Rove up to now? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Of course it's real. Rove is now employed by Time Magazine. |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. If he was paid to write it then what signficance is it? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Well, read the threads hereabouts and you'll get a clue. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Rove couldn't give a shit who we nominate. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I don't ascribe him any gravitas. He's no fucking oracle--he's a cheat. NT |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
61. You got it |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. It's non-sense. Any intelligent politico from either side could write this. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. But they're paying for the BY LINE. nt |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. sure, it makes for a good read but that does not mean it has any political significance. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. It is what it is. It is his effort to get paid AND influence the process. NT |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:56 PM Original message |
I think it's more to generate buzz and readership than affect the process... which it will not. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
57. Maybe the buzz that Rove is out there, writing for Time, FT and others. |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Stunned........ Thanks for posting. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Holy shit--I thought this would be fake, or parody....and it isn't. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. gee, why would Rove want Obama to beat Hillary? |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. why would Rove make it public that he wants Obama to beat Hillary? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Blind hatred for all things Clinton.nt |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. but if he makes it obvious he wants Obama to win doesn't that help Hillary? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Why? What Democrat is going to base |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. There are those who claim the GOP is trying to steer the Dem nomination. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. He's attempting to fuck with the process,he doesn't care |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Yes, it's Rovian reverse psychology that's already working on some on our less intelligent DUers. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. You have no right attacking anyone "blithering" |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. He doesn't. He just can't bear not being relevant anymore. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Props to Skid |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Good question. It's hate. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Could it be "The Harold Ford Factor?" |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
15. Anyone know how this letter got into the hands of the FT? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Duh, this isn't a LETTER. It's a CONTRACTED article, that he was PAID to write. |
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drbob99 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Well that puts a different light on it. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. No, that's the actual TITE of the piece... NT |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
16. wow. This strikes me as so bizarre... |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
17. This is no doubt related to the Novak article |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I agree.nt |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. Rove is the man...What does David Axelrod know about campaigning anyway? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
21. Is anyone surprised the two forces that hate the Clintons would join forces? |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Join forces? Excuse me.... |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. After reading the entire article - this feels to me... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
27. This Is Something Chris Matthews Would Write |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Chris Matthews actually coached Hillary after her illegal DL flip flop crewup in Philly |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I'm Jealous Karl Rove Doesn't Write Me Love Letters |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Rove endorsed Hillary for nominee along with Bush II, Newt Gingrich, and Tom DeLay |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. When did Rove "endorse" Clinton? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. In his first love letter as column writer. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Let's see it then. You would think Rove endorsing |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Look back in GDP archives for the dozen threads discussing Rove and Bush II's "endorsements" |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Now it's Rove and Bush who have |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Here's another insult. You make the claim, you back it up. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Hate Away |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Yeah, yeah, anyone who says anything against the Clintons are all "Hillary Haters" |
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ilovesunshine (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. In this thinking, then he just endorsed Obama with this column. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Where did he do that? By calling Obama "weak and ineffectual"? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Calling her formidable is not "gushing".Where is that |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. Strange world you inhabit |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
48. Obama is pretty cute. Remember how Karl gushed over W.? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. lol |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. rofl |
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CalebHayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. agreed |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
59. Bizarre. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
60. Some excellent advice from Rove |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-03-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
62. K&R! |
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