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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:33 PM Original message |
Hillary to Obama: The President can't vote "Present"... great response by Hillary |
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. Those last few lines are great |
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cuke
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. It's the basic reason she's my girl |
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D23MIURG23
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Tue Dec-04-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
147. Like the invasion of Iraq for instance. |
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Tue Dec-04-07 08:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
115. "After eight years of incompetence, they don’t want false hopes, they want real results.” |
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. Didn't'fighting Hillary' see a need to oppose Bush the last 7yrs the way she sees Obama |
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cuke
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. Another Hillary Hater who can't defend Obama |
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dionysus
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Tue Dec-04-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #29 |
123. can't refute the post so attack the poster... |
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Tue Dec-04-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
127. Why should we pretend Hillary was FIGHTING Bush the last 7yrs just because you do? |
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LSparkle
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. But a president can veto a bill and make Congress override it |
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journalist3072
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I just love Obama apologists. Obama's not even bothering to vote, is t he ultimate act of |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. I just love it when people call people they don't agree with apologists |
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cuke
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Then what do you call those who won't defend? |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. He's not my guy |
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rateyes
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Tue Dec-04-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
117. See post #116... |
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cuke
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Tue Dec-04-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Another Obama supporter who can't defend Obama's |
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rateyes
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Tue Dec-04-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Looks like you don't know what you are talking about... |
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cuke
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Tue Dec-04-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #121 |
124. You must have a sight problem |
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rateyes
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Tue Dec-04-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #124 |
126. And, I responded to your non-response. nt |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. It's not just that he didn't vote... |
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D23MIURG23
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Tue Dec-04-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
145. Ever missed a day of work? |
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rinsd
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. That would be a No vote by the President then. |
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Lucinda
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
4. Love it. Where is it from? |
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journalist3072
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Great minds think alike...I was just about to post! You know, Obama's been MIA in the Senate too |
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Nedsdag
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
51. Let me guess. |
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sundancekid
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Tue Dec-04-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #51 |
113. BINGO - we have another winner - yea, THAT Harry Reid, whose son works for Hillbots |
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Tue Dec-04-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
152. Obama voted YES to confirm Condi Rice! |
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Deleted message |
SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Nap time... |
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. What a fine spokesman for your cause you are. |
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sandnsea
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. My main cause is against Hillary |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. seriously |
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cuke
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. They can't defend Obama |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. you think for supporters |
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Nedsdag
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. DEFEND HILLARY, CUKE!!!! |
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cuke
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. No problem - Hillary has a much lower # of present and absent "votes" |
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Nedsdag
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. What does voting present have to do with |
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cuke
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Tue Dec-04-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #78 |
122. Voting present is a way to duck an issue |
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Tue Dec-04-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #59 |
100. Defend this: |
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ronnykmarshall
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
86. Good lord |
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desi
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
8. Our Girl is very well aware... |
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rAVES
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Tue Dec-04-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
158. Irony of this... seriously... IRONY!!! |
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Clintonista2
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. Thank you Hillary. The people need to understand the differences in Obama & Clinton's records |
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zazzle
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Tue Dec-04-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
153. Obama endorsed Lieberman - Bill Clinton campaigned with Lieberman! nuf said |
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
12. Then she shouldn't not vote on bills like the bankruptcy bill either! |
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rinsd
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. She was at Bill's side for a medical procedure for the bankrupcy vote. (nt) |
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cuke
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. The Clenis strikes again |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. real smooth |
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cuke
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. My apologies |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
68. tee-hee |
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Clintonista2
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. When Edwards was in the senate |
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zazzle
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Tue Dec-04-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
154. Stop LYING about John Edwards! |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Lame in the extreme... |
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durrrty libby
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
54. Her husband was in the hospital. So does the doctor's note give her a pass? |
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ronnykmarshall
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
89. Hmmmm? |
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quinnox
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. excellent |
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Prayingforrain48
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
21. Although I'm an Edwards/Kucinich supporter... |
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maddiejoan
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. My own perception |
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BootinUp
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
76. I agree with that. nt |
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Lucinda
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Tue Dec-04-07 01:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
104. I think so too. |
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rAVES
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Tue Dec-04-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
160. No Vision.. how could that be progressive? |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
22. oh ... SNAP! |
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Nailzberg
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Mon Dec-03-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
23. The "present" argument failed miserably in 2004. |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. spin it how you like |
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BeyondGeography
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Note the headline: Obama Abortion Dodges Blessed by Planned Parenthood |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. okay |
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BeyondGeography
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. That said, it's a slightly better line of attack than the ambition/kindergarten essay |
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cuke
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:25 PM Original message |
Better than this? |
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cuke
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
58. Or this? |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
72. so how do these decisions |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Other members remember no such arrangement...and in any case... |
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BeyondGeography
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. He was playing the Republicans! |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. He ducked 10 votes in this manner... |
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
92. So it doesn't matter if the "present" votes were the right thing to do |
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Nailzberg
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
93. I'm not spinning anything. I don't do that anymore. |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. more info for you: |
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maddiejoan
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. Yes. |
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otohara
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
27. Decades of Experience = Dodd, Biden, Richardson, Kucinich |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. yeah |
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otohara
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. Well Then |
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
61. Excellent Post #33. Kicked and Recommended. |
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otohara
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Yeah, Wikipedia & Offical Bio Plus Insults |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. if you can disprove the facts |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. It's the usual "attack the source" response they use... |
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otohara
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
91. Post Says I'm Sexist & Misinformed |
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Laurab
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Tue Dec-04-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
134. I thought the exact same thing. |
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. Good for her. |
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Cameron27
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
34. Excellent speech |
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MadBadger
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
43. Actually Hillary, a President doenst have a vote at all |
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ccpup
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. but a President DOES |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Well actually they do..sign or veto...nt |
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zulchzulu
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
49. Wow. So Hillary just figured out how to distort a Senator's voting record... |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. A version not corroborated by other legislators... |
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zulchzulu
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. So you're admitting it's much ado about nothing then... |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Don't know where you got that from... |
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calteacherguy
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. Voters will see through Clinton's distortions; She's playing negative, and Obama is playing positive |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Calteaherguy one short month ago... |
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calteacherguy
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Clark has disappointed me greatly. nt |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. That last line is YOUR comment...nt |
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calteacherguy
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. I was defending Clark's choice, but I didn't believe any of it. |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. So you bashed Obama to defend Clark... |
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calteacherguy
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. And hoping he would be VP. |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Then how do we know your comments on this thread are genuine?...nt |
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calteacherguy
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. How do we know yours are? nt |
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rinsd
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Tue Dec-04-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
133. "He lost some of his integrity. I'm not going to lose mine." |
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
62. Go Hillary |
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calteacherguy
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
63. She's wrong about the Health Care Plan. |
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SaveElmer
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Wrong... |
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calteacherguy
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. How is she going to enforce the mandates? What's her decision on that one? nt |
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NewHampster
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
69. You go girl |
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durrrty libby
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
70. Brilliant on-point speech. |
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calteacherguy
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
82. Do you know the details of the legislation? Ever hear of a poison pill? nt |
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durrrty libby
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Tue Dec-04-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #82 |
114. It is crystal clear that Obama has along history of avoiding votes |
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Skip Intro
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
77. Oh Hell Yeah! Effin' Great! |
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
79. Excellent! I can see Obama's head spinning.. |
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Hope And Change
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
87. I like Obama`s response to Hillary`s recent attacks |
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maddiejoan
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Mon Dec-03-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. I think Obama |
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Hope And Change
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Tue Dec-04-07 04:13 AM Response to Reply #95 |
111. We are not laughing... |
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Krashkopf
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Tue Dec-04-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #87 |
148. Obama's Response to Hillary's mean-spirited "now the fun begins" comment |
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
88. Hillary voted "Yes" in support of Bush's war in Iraq, and Bush's war plans on Iran. |
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MasonJar
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Mon Dec-03-07 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
94. New Yorkers, what do you think? She appears from Kentucky with |
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maddiejoan
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Mon Dec-03-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Hillary has been a marvelous Senator for NY |
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IndianaGreen
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Tue Dec-04-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #96 |
108. The more reason why Hillary should remain as a US Senator for NY |
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Mon Dec-03-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. She has been diligent and mostly responsive |
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Andromeda
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Tue Dec-04-07 12:18 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Thank you... |
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BeyondGeography
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Tue Dec-04-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #98 |
109. LOL |
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Andromeda
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Tue Dec-04-07 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
99. You hit it out of the park, Hillary... |
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Tue Dec-04-07 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
101. Teacher's pet likes to show up for votes. nah nah nah |
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avrdream
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Tue Dec-04-07 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
102. Finally! |
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Tactical Progressive
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Tue Dec-04-07 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
103. So Obama's a coward, in addition to being a liar and a slimer |
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calteacherguy
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Tue Dec-04-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Don't believe what she says. Read my post below. nt |
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Tactical Progressive
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Tue Dec-04-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #107 |
110. It doesn't show Obama for any great courage or accomplishment |
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Tue Dec-04-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #103 |
118. You know, you really should get informed before posting. |
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calteacherguy
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Tue Dec-04-07 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
105. Corrrection: : Lame response by Hillary. |
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Think82
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Tue Dec-04-07 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
106. I just hope these two tear each other down a bit so Biden can win. |
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William769
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Tue Dec-04-07 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
112. K&R! |
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rateyes
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Tue Dec-04-07 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
116. This part is the biggest bunch of garbage... |
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Tue Dec-04-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #116 |
120. Another Obama supporter who can't defend Obama's record |
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rateyes
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Tue Dec-04-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #120 |
125. I didn't attack HIllary. I attacked her positions. And, I criticized |
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rateyes
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Tue Dec-04-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. What's wrong? |
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zulchzulu
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Tue Dec-04-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #116 |
128. Good post...and you'll get the usual childish name-calling from you know who |
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rateyes
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Tue Dec-04-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. You see how the usual suspect conceded the point |
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Tue Dec-04-07 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
131. Kick their asses, Hillary! nt |
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Michael101
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Tue Dec-04-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
132. Gotta hand it to SaveElmer..... |
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Tue Dec-04-07 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
135. "After eight years of incompetence, they don’t want false hopes, they want real results." |
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Carrieyazel
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Tue Dec-04-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. Well stated. Hillary hasn't exactly given us real results. |
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opihimoimoi
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Tue Dec-04-07 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
136. Hillary is not perfect....but if given the op...She will do America WELL. |
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Carrieyazel
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Tue Dec-04-07 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
137. Hillary's own voting record is being pored over as we speak. |
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Voice for Peace
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Tue Dec-04-07 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
138. This whole thread is a good example of why the wars in our world never end. |
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BenDavid
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Tue Dec-04-07 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
140. By next Sunday HRC will have the lead in the Des Moines |
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avrdream
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Tue Dec-04-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. Nice analysis, Ben. |
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Mrspeeker
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Tue Dec-04-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
141. Hum another corporate democrats vision for New America |
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Catherine Vincent
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Tue Dec-04-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
143. That's a great speech by Hillary. |
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D23MIURG23
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Tue Dec-04-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
144. Yes, what brilliant ad-hominems |
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in_cog_ni_to
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Tue Dec-04-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
146. "We need to stand up to the drug companies and the insurance companies and provide health care" How |
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mdmc
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Tue Dec-04-07 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
149. everything she says makes me sick to my stomach |
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gateley
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Tue Dec-04-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
150. Great line! nt |
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leftofthedial
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Tue Dec-04-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
151. she's missed plenty of important votes herself |
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oasis
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Wed Dec-05-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #151 |
162. I can't get the link you've provided to work. |
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Flashman7
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Tue Dec-04-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
155. well |
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rAVES
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Tue Dec-04-07 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
156. They're both rubbish. pissing match between lackluster pollsters in polititians clothing. |
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Roland99
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Tue Dec-04-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
157. Wait a sec. You're PROUD she votedon that res. condemning Iran?!?! |
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rAVES
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Tue Dec-04-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. Dream on Buddy!! DLC owns you! |
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Roland99
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Tue Dec-04-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Don't own me! But they and AIPAC and corporations own Hillary. |
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