"That's one of the things that irritates me about him (Biden)

[PatSeg]

that he's such a Democrat," Engel said.


From an article in WCFcouier, Biden is a longshot with a chance:

<On the stump, the Democratic presidential hopeful often tells the story of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto calling him in the hours after Musharraf imposed emergency rule.
<
"The sad part is, they didn't call the president," Biden said at a stop in Waterloo last month.>

snip

<Biden regularly draws more people to his appearances than his poll numbers would suggest. And even those indicate some progress: The latest ARG poll showed him at 8 percent and moving ahead of New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson; and he inched up to 6 percent in the latest Iowa Poll.

Looked at in a vacuum of the issues most important to Americans, Biden appears to be the candidate for his time: Voters have made it clear that national security issues --- the Iraq war and terrorism, in particular --- are their most pressing concerns. That's why many say a third-place place finish on Jan. 3 isn't out of the question.

"He's one of the few that's actually making converts as he appears," said Dave Nagle, a former U.S. congressman and ex-state Democratic chairman. "He seems to be making some real headway with the thing. He could be a caucus night surprise.">

snip

Jim Norton of New Hartford committed early on to supporting Hillary Clinton, but after seeing Biden last week in Allison he said the senator would "definitely" be his second choice.

"The guy is like an encyclopedia," he said. "I keep hearing a lot of people really like him."

At a stop in Waverly last week, two Republicans stood up to ask him a question. After the event both said they were strongly leaning towards Biden, despite having voted Republican for decades.

One of them, Dennis Johnson of Waverly, said he found Biden's blunt honesty refreshing. He was impressed Biden went against the advice of his advisers and voted in May to fund the Iraq war. Biden, who has a son in the military, has said he won't take funding away from troops in harm's way.

"He will go against the grain to tell the truth," Johnson said.>

snip

<While Biden's bravado isn't unusual for a politician, he wouldn't need a first-place finish to declare victory in Iowa. Third place is within his and Bill Richardson's reach, and would be considered a win heading into New Hampshire, said Nagle, who advises several of the Democratic presidential candidates.

That's because supporters of the top three Democratic candidates won't necessarily support their top rivals if their candidate doesn't make the cut in their precinct.>

http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2007/12/03/news/metro/008db4e33deca7cc862573a600526d3a.txt

[jillan]

1. I once heard some pundit say that Biden supporters never change their mind about him.

And that he is the only candidate that has that going for him.

Here's to hoping more people look his way in the next month.
After this Iran fiasco - here's to hoping people wake up soon!

[jillan]

2. Is Engel a Repug?

[PatSeg]

3. Yep

<Linda Engel has voted Republican ever since President Ford was in office, but switched parties for the caucuses. When Biden attacks Republicans --- often President Bush or Rudy Giuliani --- the partisanship irritates her. Even so, national security is so important to her that she's willing to switch support from Obama, of whom she has concerns over experience. She's now leaning strongly towards Biden.>

There was SO MUCH in the article, I couldn't get it all in, but I loved that she said he was "such a Democrat".

[jillan]

5. He definitely has cross over appeal.

I know another Republican that really likes him.

[PatSeg]

6. Even if he's "such a Democrat"!

[1corona4u]

10. I've sold him to a few myself...and...

I'm currently working on the last 2 that I know...I'll get them onboard....

[PatSeg]

12. I got one recovering republican by showing him

the IAFF speech. He was impressed and gradually moved over to Biden. He loved the last two debates and was actually quoting Biden!

[skipos]

4. I'd like to see him get into the top tier. nt

[frogcycle]

11. you will

mark my words! (what the hell does that mean, anyway?)

[skipos]

14. I looked it up. It's not that weird.

Mark my words
Meaning: I will be proven correct.
Example: Mark my words, if you don't replace you tires you will have a blow out on your car by the end of the summer.
Origin: "Mark" in this case means to write, hence "mark my words" means to write down my words. This will enable the written words to be referenced later, presumably proving the speaker correct.

[PatSeg]

15. That's neat

I love finding out the meaning and origins of commonly used phrases. That makes perfect sense.

[frogcycle]

16. cool

mark them WELL!

[PatSeg]

18. Consider them "marked"!

:hi:

[gateley]

7. That is too funny! How DARE he be such a Democrat! Only from the Mouths of Republicans..."

:rofl:

[PatSeg]

8. But she'll probably vote for him!

Priceless. Be sure to read the whole article. It is really good.

[gateley]

9. I did - very encouraging for us Bidenities! Thanks!! nt

[1corona4u]

13. Very nice...

although, I didn't understand the last line of the article....he offends me. But then again, I don't live in Iowa, so I guess it's not applicable.

[PatSeg]

17. I liked Dennis Johnson's comment

"He will go against the grain to tell the truth," Johnson said.

That sums it up for me.

[Debi]

25. You know I saw Dennis at the Waverly event, I think he's a regular

republican voter.

[PatSeg]

27. Its so cool to hear all your on the ground observations

Its the closest many of us will get to actually "being there".

[DCKit]

19. He's got the foreign policy cred as well as the respect of several important world leaders. n/t

[whirlygigspin]

20. I love it!

The Next Great President
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ-GskNwTU4

[1corona4u]

23. Boy, isn't that the truth...

I love that clip...I wonder what Doris thinks of him? Seriously...

[maximusveritas]

21. "he won't take funding away from troops in harm's way"

Yep, all the other Democrats want to leave our troops out there in harms way with no funding. Biden's the only one who cares enough about them to fund them.

[nyc 4 Biden]

22. k&r nt

:)

[1corona4u]

28. KAD777

Did such a great job on that video, I get so emotional when I watch it. (the one in your sig line)

[youthere]

24. I talked to a woman the other day...

she considers herself a "republican" but has never voted. She registered two weeks ago as a Dem so she could caucus (for the first time ever) for Joe Biden.

[PatSeg]

26. There could be a lot of people out there like her

Times have changed and people have changed. They are more politically aware - that's about the only good thing Bush has brought about.

[jillan]

29. Wow - that just made my day!

:bounce:

[PatSeg]

30. Love your pic Pirhana!

:headbang:

[jillan]

32. It's big, huh?

Well so is my support :)

[PatSeg]

33. Big and presidential looking!

:toast:

[murbley40]

31. kick

[coco77]

34. The republicons are afraid of him...

[1corona4u]

35. Because they know he has wide appeal...

[PatSeg]

37. Biden doesn't fit neatly into their playbook

and their candidates are no match for his intelligence and wit.

[Steely_Dan]

36. Great Article

I hope that this translates into votes.

-Paige