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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:38 PM Original message |
Hillary Clinton Might Be the Least Electable Democrat |
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David Dunham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. Obama is the least electable. Racism is still widespread in the US. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Uh, except that the white woman in question is Hillary Clinton |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I Don't Think Either One Is Electable |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I Think Every Democrat Is Electable |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. I Sure Hope You Are Right |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Right Now The Dems Have A Sixty Percent Chance Of Winning The White House |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I Like Those Odds, But Where Did They Come From? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #42 |
68. Intrade |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. My view exactly |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. That's What People Said Last Time (2004), and the Time Before That (2000) |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
78. I Agree & Time Will Tell... n/t |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I don't think people have a problem with Hillary being a woman |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
79. Very Likable, But I Don't Think Southerners Have Shed Enough Racism |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Wow, that demonstrates the problem with "electability" right there. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
57. Well Said....... |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
80. Sound Like A LOT Of Repukes I KNOW!! You Analysis Fit Them To |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
48. So we should not nominate Obama because of his race? Isn't THAT racist? |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
49. 50% of voters would not consider voting for Hillary. Not because she is a woman.... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
56. Frankly, those who would not vote for him because of his race |
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FatDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Conventional wisdom would say you're correct |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
89. Among the Democratic candidates, Obama has the highest approval rating among Republicans. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
84. What utter bullshit |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. How dare you state the obvious! |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. AlterNet |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. Don't you wish....................... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I See The Author Of The Article Is Pimping The Universally Discredited Zomby Online Poll |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
51. the zogby poll ( I guess you don't know enough about him to even spell his name?) is not universally |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 07:14 AM Response to Reply #51 |
70. It Was A Joke- "Zomby" -Don't You Get It |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 07:18 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. My Bad |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. The reasons Obama beats Republican candidates that Hillary doesn't are simple. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. All empty rhetoric. Every bit of it Fools Gold |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. We'll see if your opinion is shared by a majority of voters. nt |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I'm Disappointed That A Man Who Is Responsible For Educating Our Youth Is So Disingenuous |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Can you imagine what his "Show and Tell" sessions must be like? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. No |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. We don't do show and tell. nt |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Why not? Show & tell is important, man.What if someone brought you in a little Hillary doll to show? |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
63. LOL. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
35. Empty paper bags? |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Sorry, I don't believe the "educating youth" part. On the internet |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. I'll Give Him The Benefit Of The Doubt |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. I am a public school teacher. nt |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Graduating rates are are a national shame |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. It's "graduation" rates. And yes, I agree. nt |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 07:55 AM Response to Reply #47 |
73. I should have known sarcasm would be lost on you without the logo |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
54. is it necessary to flame calteacher? you owe him an apology |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. If Obama somehow gets into the WH, expect 0 for 3 from "The Great Pretender". |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #32 |
55. Ah...name calling .....that is such a positive contribution to discourse...sarc |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. It should be common sense |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Or Fucking Nonsense |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. don't be so bitter |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Bitter About What |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. yeah, you seem even more bitter in this post |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Try To Use Facts In Your Arguments |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. sorry |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Now I Feel Bad |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
18. then why so many endorsements? |
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vssmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Ask yourself this question |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Most Experienced In Order |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
82. I wouldn't rank Kucinich so low. |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #30 |
72. i have high standards, and none of them meet it |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
20. INteresting that this guy is just now writing about numbers |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. And He Ignores Every Other Published Poll |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Alternet used to be better than that |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. My sentiments exactly.........but this goes on a lot here. nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. god, you can smell the author's stink of desperation |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
44. Sorry but electability isn't my main concern. I want a candidate that will support |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
45. Hillary will win because she can kick-ass better than |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:51 AM Response to Reply #45 |
58. Why hasn't she kicked Rep ass? She sure seems to try to kick Dems though |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #45 |
76. She's not qualified she voted for the Patriot Act twice. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
50. I really want her to win |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. outstanding reason to support someone |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
90. I never said that's the reason I support her |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:58 AM Response to Reply #50 |
60. I don't particularly want her to win. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
61. And I think some hope hillary will lose for the same reasons.... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
91. I, and others, have done so |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
52. well |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
59. Hillary the "least electable?" -- as per W.S.Churchill - "except for all the others." /nt |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
62. So might Obama. |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
64. I think people are starting to realize that. |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 03:11 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Good analysis |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
66. Both HIllary and Obama are easy prey in a general election. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. Post 83 dispels your misinformation |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
69. Y'all are scared shitless of Republicans. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #69 |
81. The Republican Nominees Are Very Very Scary People |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
74. But, Hillary Clinton Might Be the Most Electable Republican |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. There was a time when I came here for reasoned discourse. |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Just more of the same. Corporatist. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
83. Hillary least electable? Really? |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Do the people who respond to these polls understand what electability is?? I doubt it. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Do the people who respond to these polls understand what electability is?? |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
88. First rule of election theft: |
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