This is not fascist Germany

[XemaSab]

We're allowed to be critical of political figures in this country.

We're even allowed to be critical of people we generally agree with.

For all the brownshirts accusing others of bashing democrats-- get a life. This is America, and we have free speech. :patriot:

[peacebird]

1. links please? It seems like this post came in quite out of the blue...?

[PDJane]

2. So did Germany.......

Until the windows closed. And that, by the way, is happening quickly.

[mike_c]

3. K&R-- seriously folks-- politics IS the discourse, not the legislation...

...or the other business of government.

[nightrider767]

4. Not So Loud Friend,,,,

Zee walls have ears.....

Day are listening, you'll only make problem.

:hide:

[gateley]

5. No, but I fear it's becoming fascist America. nt

[Imagevision]

6. We have free speech when the MSM deems it to be newsworthy Freedom in

America is going to the 7-11, we're free to make choices...

[baldguy]

7. Before 9/11, there were 12 people on the govt terrorist watch list. Now there are 3 million.

Do you really believe there are 3 million terrorists in this country?

[Jackpine Radical]

8. We're allowed to be critical

as long as the criticism is ineffectual.

We're allowed to march by the hundreds of thousands, even millions, in street protests as long as the M$M can effectively minimize the numbers into "dozens."

We're allowed to scream for impeachment as long as Nancy keeps it off the table.

They have laws against effective resistance. They call it terrorism.

[spirit of wine]

9. I am sure Germany said similar things about itself

in the '30s as it was wondering what was happening to its own sovereignty, as well. Alas, we too may even slip beyond what Germany had become if we do not recognize now what our historicity is.

[Warren Stupidity]

10. That's right. And this isn't 1932.

Now that we have agreed on some basic facts: the United States of America is not the Third Reich and this is 2007 not 1932, we could, if you are interested, have a discussion about whether or not we are in the midst of a fascist shift, a transformation of a democratic republic of free citizens into a fascist corporate kleptocracy run through a corrupt duopoly for the benefit of a small group of very powerful elites.

But you seem ill-informed, so perhaps you ought to read the Two Naomis first:

Naomi Wolf's The End of America: A Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot

and

Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine.

Then we can talk.

[EstimatedProphet]

11. So we can't be critical of the people who are critical?

[BeyondGeography]

12. She's just being critical of the people who are being critical of the people who are being critical

[XemaSab]

13. I think we should be critical of them.

They're trying to stifle criticism. :shrug:

[BeyondGeography]

14. I was going to add "and she's right"

but I wanted to keep it all on one line.

I'm silly that way sometimes.

[XemaSab]

15. .

:rofl: :pals:

[EstimatedProphet]

19. I don't see anyone trying to stifle criticism

What I do see is a lot of meanspirited insults thrown around. What I do see is people trying to stop unfair attacks.

[bobthedrummer]

16. We have been fascist "governed" for years-it's just not totalitarian eom

[Perry Logan]

17. If they can bash Democrats, we can bash them.

[EstimatedProphet]

18. I agree